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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:06 PM
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Kerry Wins Texas. Ask me anything.
Edited on Fri May-07-04 05:54 PM by chair094
I was playing pResident Forever on my computer.

Election Results

Kerry 63,525,909 (50%)
bu%h* 54,020,161 (43%)
Nader 4,682,300 (3%)
Nolan 2,440,711 (1%)

Electoral College
Kerry 433
bu%h* 105

WOO HOO! If only this was real...

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

Edit: States that I won

CA, HI, OR, WA, NV, AZ, NM, CO, TX, AR, IA, MO, MN, WI, IL, TN, MI, KY, FL, GA, NC, VA, WV, DC, MD, DE, PA, NJ, NY, MA, CT, RI, NH, VT, ME
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:07 PM
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1. heh i am still voting for nader or camejo or staying home
cause in the real world he aint gonna
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:11 PM
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:12 PM
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4. KERRY HAS NO CHANCE IN HELL OF WINNING TEXAS!!!!!!
Edited on Fri May-07-04 05:15 PM by corporatewhore
get real bush just might win texas if i dont give my vote to kerry :eyes:
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:15 PM
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6. It's fun to dream, isn't it?
It's a computer game.:) Sheesh.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:17 PM
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8. NO STATE IS A SAFE STATE!!!!!!!!
at least that's how I think we might want to approach this. . .I am not so sure that the conventional wisdom holds this year.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:19 PM
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10. Certainly not with that attitude
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:09 PM
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2. Wow that's impressive.
How did you pull that off?
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:14 PM
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5. 3 last minute scandals
lots of last-minute ads, a couple of foot soldiers, and a little barnstorming. It was a blowout, too.:evilgrin:

TX Results

Kerry 5,006,597 (53.5%)
bu$h* 3,997,670 (42.7%)
Nader 227,662 (2.4%)
Nolan 101,487 (1.1%)

A little extra campaigning to give der Shrubenfuhrer the ultimate embarrasment.:evilgrin:

:bounce::bounce::bounce:
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:59 PM
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13. Did you use spies?
If so, how many did you have when you were cranking out scandals?
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 08:41 PM
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15. No, I had spies off
I can't trust KKKarl Rove.

However, I did plow all of my research into scandals and waited to leak them until the last week or so.:evilgrin:
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 09:56 PM
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21. You can get lots more scandals
if you have 3 spies... I've gotten Bush's momentum down to -500 before.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:01 PM
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22. Thanks for the tip
Edited on Fri May-07-04 10:02 PM by chair094
though I am wondering...how good is KKKarl Rove at creating scandals against me in this game?

Edit: I've gotten shrub's momentum to -250 or so before, but I've only had the full version for less than 24 hrs.:)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:48 PM
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7. Nationally, if we get the people out to the polls (GOTV):
then:

Kerry 52.0%
Bush 43.4%
Nader 4.0%
Others .6%

Kerry will win about 350 Electoral Votes too.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:59 PM
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9. Shameless self-promoting kick
Edited on Fri May-07-04 07:00 PM by chair094
:kick:
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:28 PM
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11. what is president forever?
and how do I play?
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:54 PM
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12. It's a computer game
You can get a free demo that stops at the first debate. You can also download the full version for $12. You can download either version here.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 08:00 PM
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14. Which version are you using?
Did you edit the electoral trends at all? :)
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 08:45 PM
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16. I couldn't find a version number
but I downloaded the full version yesterday, if that tells you anything.

Electoral trends? You mean I can note how liberals are especially pissed off? Tell me more!

However, I did edit platforms a bit, to get rid of some of my reservations with Kerry (for example, the default free-trade position is center-right, most markets should be open). I also brought bu$h*'s integrity down to the lowest rating and edited his platform to fit that of PNAC's. Hey, it's only the truth!:evilgrin:
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:06 PM
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23. Then you should have the newest version
"Electoral trends? You mean I can note how liberals are especially pissed off? Tell me more!"

Actually, yes, you can do that.

In your scenarios/2004 folder, there should be a file called "electorate_trends.p4e." Rename it to electorate_trends.p4e.txt, or set up wordpad so that it opens .p4e files. Then you can change the base amount of people in each state who will vote for each party, you can change what percentage of those people are "hard" support, you can change how many are really undecided, and you can change how many are disillusioned voters. I've fooled around with it a bit and have gotten them a bit more realistic (at least I think they are better). If you want my version of the file, I could PM you (and anyone else who wants it) the text. If you can win Texas with my electoral trends file, THEN you know you are really good. :)

If you wanted to simulate especially pissed off liberals, for example, you could increase the number of democrats who are especially hard support, while keeping the proportion for Republicans lower.

"However, I did edit platforms a bit, to get rid of some of my reservations with Kerry (for example, the default free-trade position is center-right, most markets should be open). I also brought bu$h*'s integrity down to the lowest rating and edited his platform to fit that of PNAC's. Hey, it's only the truth!"

I've done pretty much the same thing too. :)
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:18 PM
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24. There's gonna be lots of disillusioned rethugs hehehe
Edited on Fri May-07-04 10:35 PM by chair094
The true conservatives can come out now.:)
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:36 PM
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25. I sure can!
// BLOCK PERCENTAGE RANDOMIZATION
//

// percentages below are randomized slightly for each game, according
// to the following variable x:

1

// this means the maximum percentage change in any given party will be
// x, with an average of x/2
// in this case, x=2, so the average percentage change would be 2/2,
// that is, 1


--- You may notice that when you start the same scenario different times, it starts with slightly different percentages in different states. If you increase the number from 1 to a higher number, there will be more random variation in starting conditions. If you lower it, then there will be less variation. If it is 0, then it will always be the same.


//
// PERCENTAGE FOR EACH BLOCK FOR EACH REGION
//

// 40
// 50
// 60
// 55
// ... (and so on for the other parties) ...

// would mean:
// 40% of voters who don't consider themselves undecided
// or none (alienated) are with (in this case since 'Republican' was
// listed first) the Republican party, and 50% of those are COMMITTED
// Republicans, while 50% are LEANING Republicans
// 60% of voters ... are with (in this cas since 'Democratic' was
// listed second) the Democratic party, and 55% of those are COMMITTED
// Democrats, while 45% are LEANING Democrats

// when playing, if one of these parties is not selected, the
// percentage of people in that block go to the undecided block
// or to other parties

// if the numbers for all parties > 100, then they are distributed
// relative to the total (so 50/150 would mean 33% of voters who
// aren't alienated or undecided)

// finally, add the number of undecideds and number of none (alienated)
// so,

// 20
// 0

// would mean 20% of the electorate is undecided, 0% none

// put a @ after each region's stats, so the program knows if you've
// goofed and put too many/not enough numbers in for that region

// Bush, Gore, Nader, Buchanan, Undecided

// Alabama 1


That means that in Alabama.....

//Republicans
54
80


54% of the people are Republicans. Of those 54% of Alabama residents who are Republicans, 80% of them are HARD CORE Republicans. You will have a very difficult time getting them to vote for a Democrat. The other 20% will vote for a Democrat under some circumstances, if you give them a good or decent enough reason. Those people are open to pursuasion.

//Democrats
43
80


Same as above, except 43% of Alabama voters are Democrat, and 80% of those are HARD CORE Democrats. 20% could be persuaded by Bush.

//Green
2
80


Same as above. 2% are Greens.

//Reform
1
80


Same as above. 1% are "Reform party" - which in the 2004 scenario, means they are Libertarians.

//Undecided and None
20
0


The 20 means that of all of the voters in Alabama, 54% of which are Republicans, 43% of which are Democrats, 2% of which are Greens, and 1% of which are Libertarians, will start off as undecided voters. Actually, this is only true if you play with the "dynamism" option turned on. If you play with "dynamism" turned off, the number will be cut in half. So the default for most games will be 10%.

the 0 means that 0% of your voters in Alabama are alienated voters. I am not sure exactly what this does, however.





Here are the numbers I have been using for Ohio, for example:

// Ohio 35
48
90
47
94
4
15
1
50

15
3

@

48% are Republicans. 90% of that 48% are Definitely voting for Bush. 47% are Democrats. 94% of that 47% are Definitely voting for Kerry.

4% are Greens. However, only 15% of those are definitely voting for Nader. the other 85% of greens are open to some persuasian from Kerry (or even Bush, theoretically). 1% are Libertarians. 50% of those are definitely going to vote for the Libertarian candidate, but the other half can be swayed.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:42 PM
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26. Thank you
Edited on Fri May-07-04 11:02 PM by chair094
I deleted my question when I figured it out enough to dig in. You did make it clearer, though.:)
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 08:52 PM
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17. Hey, anyone have fundraising data?
I need to edit campaign funds to reflect that bu$h* blew all of his corporate cash early (the game starts in September).:evilgrin:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 09:09 PM
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18. Great game. I've won as an Independent taking 40 states.
Of course I had to give myself an $800 million war chest to do it. The candidate editor rules.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 09:20 PM
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19. Don't give me any ideas...
...or Kerry might buy Diebold outright...:evilgrin:

(I'm not going to give Kerry $800 million, though. However, I am looking for an excuse to deprive bu$h* of funds, see above.)
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 09:46 PM
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20. I won Texas again!
The popular vote was almost the same as before, though I didn't have quite the electoral college blowout (only 375 EC votes instead of 433 this time).

It is replicable...just takes a little work. There may yet be a ray of hope for you Texas DUers.:)
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