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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:04 PM
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Survivor 5/6: What?? (with spoilers)
Somebody explain to me why they just voted Big Tom out. I don't get it.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:09 PM
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1. Rupert and Jenna want to go head-to-head vs. Rob and Amber
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:19 PM
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3. Why would they do that
when they could take Amber out and be guaranteed final three?
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:56 PM
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5. Well, they're not the smartest people in the world
Since Tom apparently never agreed to join Rupert and Jenna, they couldn't get the three votes against Amber. Although, I really don't know what Rob and Amber were thinking because I would have got Rupert out since I think he'd be the most likely to get immunity.

But then again no one this season has really shown anything intelligence wise, so who the hell knows whats going to happen.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:11 PM
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2. It Makes Me Fear The Election
Jenna, Rupert, and Big Tom have to know that Rob, if he gets immunity, will take Amber with him to the final challenge. Also, they have to know that now Rob and Amber can vote either of them out. Incredible!

Americans are soo ignorant of politics that they can easily be duped into voting against their own self-interest.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:46 PM
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4. These guys are idiots
This season will really suck if Amber or Boston Rob wins. I hope Rupert, or at least Jenna win.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:01 PM
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6. Does anyone know if they always use "most previous votes" to break ties?
Or do they/would they change it for the final four?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:46 PM
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11. They haven't used previous votes
as a tie breakers since Survivor Three. In Marquesas, they introduced the Purple Rock of Death, where a tie breaker is drawn by random lots.

There hasn't been a tie breaker since. And there won't be next week, either.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:37 PM
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21. Tiebreaker
There hasn't been a tie breaker since. And there won't be next week, either.

Do you know that from spoilers, or is that just an educated assessment of the situation? It's possible that it would be Rupert/Jenna vs. Rob/Amber, but it's more likely that Jenna will stick with Rob and Amber.

If it were a tiebreaker, I believe Amber has received quite a few votes so far.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:04 PM
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7. What happened was....
Bsoton Rob played Tom vs Rupert. I found it interesting that they did
not show what transpired between Rob and Jenna (negotiation-wise).
Its quite obvious that Rupert was pissed off at Tom and Rob took
advantage of the situation to vote one of them off.
Tom was a coward. He deserved to have been broadsided, just like
Alicia.

I think that it played out rather well. At this point, its all about
preserverence and in the long haul, I think Rupert has a big chance
in all this.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:07 PM
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8. about that "guaranteed to SHOCK you" stuff coming up on sunday-
if rob proposes to amber or something like that, it may put me off survivor for good...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:49 PM
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9. I think the big shock will be...
..Amber announcing that she's pregnant. With twins! The prize for the reward challenge will be a trip to Paris. Amber will win. Rob will then tell her he loves her and beg her not to fly away and leave him. Then they'll all retire to the hut for some coffee.

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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:16 PM
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10. If Rob relies on a jury vote to win he may as well forget about it.
He has back-stabbed too many of the jury members to get any help from them. I'm sure Alicia, Lex and now Big Tom wouldn't even piss on Rob if he was on fire.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:48 PM
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12. I thought it was stupid at first
And, after much thought, I still do.

The rationale for Jenna's vote, however, is that she's in an F3 alliance with Rob and Amber. Remember that Rupert has even said as much.

Rupert is gone if he doesn't win the next two immunities.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:59 PM
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13. you are so right
Jenna is relying on her alliance with Rob and Amber to go to the final 3. I wish she would have pulled her head out of her nether regions and realized that there is no way she will be in the final 2 with that alliance.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:03 AM
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14. There's one way
A way that everyone forgets: She could win the final immunity.

Not that unlikely, either. There have been seven Final Three immunities. Of these, six were endurance challenges. Brian from Season 5 (Thailand) is the only male to win. (Granted, in Season 4 the F3 were all women, but still).

So the odds are fairly good that, given a Rob-Amber-Jenna F3, the challenge would come down to Amber vs Jenna. Neither of them has ever won an individual challenge of any kind, on this season or their previous season. But we've seen, several times, someone who'd never won a challenge before come up with big wins in F4/F3. KimJ from Africa and Lil (mad Beaker) from Pearl Islands are the two that spring to mind first.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:25 AM
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15. I don't think that's too likely
maybe I'm not giving Jenna enough credit or maybe I am just ticked off because I don't want any of those three to win! I dunno, why am I so frustrated over this??
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:16 AM
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16. You're frustrated for the same reason I am
All the good players either played poorly (Lex, RobC) or were booted out due to the fear of the munchkins (Richard).

And since Rich was voted out, we've seen nothing but stupid play from virtually every single person out there.

I saw an interview recently with Jeff Probst. He said he'd vote for never doing something like this again. It's time for new people in there.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:06 AM
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17. I can't see how anyone other than
Rob or Amber is going to win now. Rupert, Tom & Jenna should have taken out Amber, Rob would have been demoralized and probably would have fallen apart.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:35 PM
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20. That looks like the likely scenario
If it came down to the Final Two, I'd probably pull for Rob over Amber. Rob appears to be the bad guy, while Amber typically comes off looking innocent. I hope the jury would understand what really has been transpiring.

Rupert is probably in the most perilous situation. He'd probably beat any of the three if he makes it to the Final Two. Unless he wins, it's unlikely that he'll survive. Rob, on the other hand, will probably make it until the end because people want to face him in front of the jury.
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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:17 AM
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18. Pretty dumb on their part
But maybe everyone's hoping it's them and Rob in the final and everyone will vote for them over backstabbing Rob. The problem is, despite the jury's bitching about how Rob stabbed them in the back, in the end they'll vote for him "because he played the best game."

I just hate his smug smile. I so don't want him to win. I'd even prefer Ambot to him.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:48 AM
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19. Tom was just on CBS
Whatever their morning show is.

He siad his plan was to take Rob to the final because the jury hates Rob. He pretty much said whoever goes against Rob in the final will win.

The producers are making Rob look like a real arsehole. Maybe he's doing it himself. But the producers sure do want us to hate him. I feel if he wins I don't ever want to watch the show again. I don't think I'm the only one. They can't let that happen. I'm wondering what the big surprise is at the end.
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