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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:51 PM
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Freepers, gays, and DU question
Ok, first off, I'm straight, and not in the least homophobic.
(Just making sure here...)

I've noticed several open gays and lesbians here at DU, and I have yet to see any of the rampant gay-bashing I see all too often from Freepers and L-Dotters.

I'm just curious, has there ever been openly gay or lesbian Freepers or L-Dotters?
I honestly can't think of any, even the "Log Cabin Republicans" get slammed all the time there.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:54 PM
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1. That's because they hate everyone.
Really. FReepers hate EVERYONE. Gays, Blacks, women, Muslims, Jews, Christians who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, members of other (gasp!) religions, you name it.

Of course, most of all, they hate THEMSELVES.

That's what led them to become FReepers in the first place.
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flaminlib Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:55 PM
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4. Im full of questions today.
Is DIO running for some type of office, or is that just an album cover thing?
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:00 PM
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9. Tee hee:
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:53 AM
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24. They are so hateful they'd
beat up Casper and he was the friendly ghost.
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flaminlib Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:54 PM
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2. No contribution, just a question.
What is an L Dotter?

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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:55 PM
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3. Lucianne.com, I'm guessing.
Am I right, Archae? Do I get a biscuit? :shrug:
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:58 PM
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7. Yup.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 06:02 PM by Archae
I've seen more of the blatant racism and absolute hate from the right-wingers at Lucianne.com, than from the Freepers.

I guess the Freepers actually have standards the L-Dotters don't have.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:56 PM
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5. We keep much better company
One of the things that has amazed me throughout the past four years is extent to which the repugs have sought to alienate so many different groups of people. We gays are only one.

It amazes me that there is any repug base left.
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MsSnood Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:57 PM
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6. What is an L-Dotter?
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:00 PM
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10. Lucianne.com message board member
Message board run by Lucianne Goldberg, former Nixon goon and Clinton-chasing nasty.

There are times it seems those too far-right for FreeRepublic end up sliming their way into Lucianne.com, and are seldom moderated.
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MsSnood Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:44 PM
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13. YUK!
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:21 AM
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17. Yes
they are the ones calling the 9-11 widows 'sl*ts & wh*res' :grr:
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:58 PM
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8. What a loaded question!
eom
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:02 PM
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11. Not really.
I'm just curious if any gays or lesbians are as stupid as the Log Cabin republicans, to freely and openly go in where it's obvious they are not wanted to be in.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:24 PM
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12. I signed up as a "gay" person on Freeperville, and they totally
dissed me over and over and I didn't write anything that controversial, just the facts (e.g. gays are NOT child molesters...that sorta thing).

They spew pure hate there.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:19 PM
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14. I'm not surprised.
Freepers do have this problem with reality.

You want to really see them at the height of their stupidity?
Go to the religion section, and do a keyword search on "creation."

The creationists seem to out-number those who know real science.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:20 PM
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15. First off, I'm queer, and not in the least heterophobic.....
do you realize how stupid your opening statement sounds? It's like white people who defend their latent racism by saying they have black friends.
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MsSnood Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:33 AM
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18. How so?
I thought his opening line was pretty PC.

How would you revise his opening statement?

I ask in earnest and all seriousness.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:33 AM
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21. because other people have used that opening line as a cover
to spout homophobic drivel.
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MsSnood Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:47 AM
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22. I still don't understand what was wrong with what he said
I'm not trying to be difficult, I really don't understand.

I'm asking you to teach me so I wouldn't make the same mistake. Why did his opening statement seem offensive to you? I thought it was appropriate and proper. :shrug:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:51 AM
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23. There was nothing wrong with what he wrote....
some people just go out of their way to be offended.
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MsSnood Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:07 AM
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27. Thank you
It didn't seem out of line to me.

I just needed a reality check.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:06 AM
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26. because it's used as a cover to make stealth bigoted statements
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:57 AM
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25. Psssh nevermind. nt
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 02:59 AM by BullGooseLoony
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:15 AM
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16. Unfortunately Archae...
...there is homophobia present here on DU.

A lot of people do like to seek out negative attention, and they know, what is a hot button with us queers. They will post either some stealth bigoted remark, or show some real homophobia. Don't get me wrong, Archae, I know that most here are pro gay, but people really do need to realize that there are anti gay people here as well.

Maybe we need to begin looking in our own yard before we look at how queers are treated in another yard, huh?
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:09 AM
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19. That's true.
There is also a reflexive reaction, to serious questions like the one I asked.
I put the qualifier statement in just to make sure I wouldn't be misunderstood.

I was talking a few days ago to a gay fellow I know, and we were trying to figure out exactly what is the appeal of the Log Cabiners.

He told me, "There are greedy assholes among us gays, too."
We both got a laugh from that one.

We spent most of lunch cracking jokes about Andrew Sullivan. :-)
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:28 AM
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20. Well they have their beliefs, just like we do, ya know?
I don't respect the LCR, or any queers who do associate themselves with the devil's party, but regardless they are still members of the queer community at large.

There is a lot of talk though, that the LCR won't be endorsing Bush* this year, so there goes the 25% of the gay vote Bush* did receive in 2000.

Queers do come to a point in their life where they begin to think of what is more important to them. Unfortunately some will consider money above anything else.

I am beginning to feel sorry for them in a way I guess, because it is sad to learn you are an outcast amongst your peers, just because of who you sleep with. A lot of us who are on the left have been learing that very lession as well. I am talking from experience, and guess that is why I am beginning to feel for the LCR in so many ways. Empathy is a weird thing.
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