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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:18 PM
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Poll question: Male Singer with most soul:*PIC HEAVY THREAD*
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 06:24 PM by Mobius
Male Singer with most soul:


Bono:



BB King:




James Brown:




Daryl Hall:





Otis Redding:



Dobie Gray:





Prince:





Luther Vandross:




Marvin Gaye:






Barry White:


I didnt want to omit any of these people, so no other option, sorry. Please feel free to make honorable mentions. Sorry if your choice was left out.







Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:20 PM
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1. That's a tough one...

Definitely not Prince, Daryl Hall, and probably not Bono. You might have included Van Morrison, though as token white dude.

;)
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:23 PM
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3. Bono and Daryl Hall are white guys
and not token.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:23 PM
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4. ...well whatever...

I don't even know what Daryl Hall is doing in the mix. Bono I can see.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:47 PM
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9. Ever hear "Sara Smile?"
D.H. got TONS more soul than Mr. Look-at-Me.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:52 PM
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12. It's my second favorite Sarah song!
:7
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:57 PM
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14. I love that song.
Yeah, I make fun of H&O on occasion. Some of their songs (c.f. Method of Modern Love) deserve such derision.

But "Sara Smile" is such an incredible song, it cannot be ignored. Best. Blue-eyed-soul song. Ever.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:18 PM
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16. That IS a good song.....

...I just got tired of the insipid pop that Hall and Oates spewed out in the early 80s.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:58 PM
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20. Bono is not mr look at me
:eyes: Have you ever seen them live? Can you get by his fame, and listen to him sing? Im so sick of u2 haters that dont even know why they hate them. When I think of "soul", I think of "who makes me feel what they feel when they sing?", "who is truly tapping their inner soul, and letting you in?", "who makes you feel your own emotions more when they sing?", "who has been touched by the pain in the world and you can hear it when they sing?".....etc...etc....
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:02 PM
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21. I saw them on the "Zoo TV" tour in '91.
I really like "Achtung Baby" and "Boy."

What I don't like is Bono's holier-than-thou smugness.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:07 PM
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23. how is he holier than thou?
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:08 PM by Mobius
what has he done that is holier than thou?
ON EDIT: and how does that relate to how much soul he sings with?
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:18 PM
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25. Well, I imagine you've seen "Rattle and Hum"...
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:19 PM by Whitacre D_WI
That's gotta be the most smug, self-righteous film I've ever watched.

Look, I'm not dissing you for digging on U2, I just don't.

And as far as the "soulfulness" of Paul Hewson's voice (oh yeah, there's another ego trip -- dude named hisself "Bono Vox" ;)), you know how you were talking about the emotional connection thing? I don't get that with Bono. It's not that I think he's disingenuous, not that I think he doesn't mean what he sings; but I sure as hell don't feel it when I hear him.

I suppose it bears noting that my two favorite U2 albums are probably their coldest, least-soulful albums of their career. I love soul music, but I don't like U2's version thereof.

oh, and on edit -- seriously, I think a lot of the anti-Bono sentiment on this thread is due mostly to the notable absence of Sam Moore ;)
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:28 PM
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26. dio sucks
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:30 PM by Mobius
:tinfoilhat:
ON EDIT: of course I have seen R&H, I own the DVD. The humility Bono shows as BBKing says"You are writing mighty heavy lyrics for someone so young", Is in stark contrast with your assertion.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:29 PM
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27. ?
I never said U2 sucked, I just said I don't like most of their records.

And Dio hasn't done anything of note in 20 years. But damn, that's a funny website.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:31 PM
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28. read my edit.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:32 PM by Mobius
Dio doesnt suck. But Bono has soul. Admit it. Even if you hate him.
Elevation snippet: "I cant sing but I got soul, the goal ELEVATION"
Very true words.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:49 PM
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32. But now you're talking about lyrics.
Keeping in the general theme of Irish poetry, may I present William Butler Yeats?

He wrote some very emotional lines, but I certainly don't know if he was a soulful singer. Now if friggin' OTIS or JB or MARVIN or SAM sang Yeats poems set to music, it would be heaven. Dunno about Bono.

I can't get inside Bono's head, so I can't say that this is true, but this is what I perceive when listening to him sing: whereas Otis would reach down and deliver a burst of pure emotion like vomiting up the heart's own blood, Bono seems to be trying too hard. Otis was soulful simply because he could be nothing else. Bono's singing seems overwrought to me -- and if you look at my sig line, you'll see I know something about overwrought singing :P
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:58 PM
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35. no im not
Im talking about the emotion signifigance of the song.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:01 PM
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36. Well, if you're talking about its emotional significance to you...
...that gonna be quite different from its emotional significance to me. And there's a lot more subjectivity in finding such significance in a performance than in a composition.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:03 PM
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37. It doesnt matter if you find it emotionally signifigant
but that he does, and conveys it so well.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:36 PM
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29. Boy and Achtung Baby have no soul?
Curious.
Boy:
Out of Control: about being 18and the world is too much for you.
I will follow: About Bonos Mothers death.
Achtung Baby:
One: yeah no soul in that song :eyes:
Mysteriuos Ways: Religious conflict in one's soul.
Until the End of the World: yeah soulless.
Even Better Than the Real Thing: nope no emotion there either :eyes:
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:43 PM
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30. "Stories for Boys" is about comic books.
And is probably my favorite U2 song. That or "Shadows and Tall Trees."
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:44 PM
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31. What about the songs I mentioned?
or the humility Bono showed in R&H with BB King?
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:53 PM
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33. He had damn well better have been humbled.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:54 PM by Whitacre D_WI
He was talking to B.B. KING, fer Chrissakes!

Anyway, about the others -- I just mentioned that a few posts up (down? eh, somewhere). You're talking about what the songs are about, their lyrical content. That doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the soulfulness of the singer. For instance, one of my favorite Otis Redding performances is a rendition of "Mary Had a Little Lamb" that just BURNS. Meaningful lyrics? No. Soulful performance? Hell yes.

on edit: to my ears, the most emotionally affecting vocal performance on AB is "Acrobat." I'll give ya soul on that one ;)
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:31 PM
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58. "Bono I can see."
Well, I can't. The dude is a joke. Might as well throw in Michael Bolton if Bono is a choice.

Now, Van Morrison makes an excellent choice.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:22 PM
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2. The singularly incomparable John Martyn.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:25 PM
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6. My vote is for Barry White
nt
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:24 PM
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5. Well, it sure as hell ain't Bono.
My vote goes to Sam Moore.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:27 PM
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7. you are wrong
n/t
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:39 PM
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8. Ten bucks says I won't be the last person to write-in Sam Moore.
:hi:
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:50 PM
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10. Bill Medley


I love U2 and Bono, but his most soulful song is U2's cover of "Unchained Melody" so I've got to go with the original.

U2's best cover? Patti Smith's "Dancing Barefoot."
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:50 PM
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11. What no Willlim Hung?
kidding, honorable mentions - Al Green - Jackie Wilson, tho Al at least should have been included on the poll.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:53 PM
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13. Marvin, baby!
:headbang:
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:08 PM
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51. Marvin, baby. Yeah. Although, if David Ruffin had been on the list,
I'd have been torn between the two.
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lyrical di Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:02 PM
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15. BB King
KIng is the truth!
Luther Vandross has a huge following in my area, but I'll always go see the King first.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:27 PM
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17. Jimmy Lafave
more soul than the legal limit for a white guy.

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:31 PM
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18. OTIS! everyone else is a distant second.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:54 PM
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19. Anybody think Bono is a bullshit option?
just curious. Please supply reason.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:05 PM
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22. Darryl Hall and Bono?!
You're kidding, right?
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:09 PM
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24. no
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:11 PM by Mobius
how old are you and how much do you know about music. A simple I think "this person" is better than who you have listed", would suffice.
ON EDIT: Soul is not necessarily a function of a heavy R&B repetoire.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:55 PM
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34. He's older than you, and he's a DJ.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:56 PM by Whitacre D_WI
:hi:

Oh, yeah -- he does a soul music show.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:04 PM
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38. Well he didnt list who he thought I missed.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 10:05 PM by Mobius
:shrug:
and as i said, Soul is not necessarily a function of a heavy R&B repetoire.
Janis Joplin for instance.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:53 AM
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42. It has to be a joke
I can't think of any other rationale. Of course, this poll is presented by the same person who told me that putting a non-white person in a "hot guy" poll would have been tokenism. LOL.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:36 AM
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46. You leave out the fact I created a racially balanced poll just for you
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 06:37 AM by Mobius
of sexy men. How many sexy men are there out there? Hold on to things much? :shrug: That was what, over a month ago? I think you need to move on. And yes, putting a non white in a poll just because they are not white, would be rascist. Also I remember 2 non whites in the poll in the first place. Johnny Depp is 50% native american and Vin Diesel was not white, last time I checked. You might want to know what junk you are dragging up from the past, before you blast me for it later.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:19 AM
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47. Nope. Just making note
of patterns. And who said anything about racism?

Glad that I now know Mr. Depp's and Mr. Diesel's pedigrees, though. Glad we have that bean counting out of the way.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:36 PM
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48. you were the one who brought up race
not me. You also used the term "bean counting", which I find offensive. You also were the one concerned that there were no men of color in the original sexy man poll. It appears I am the color blind person, not you.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:58 AM
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39. BONO RULES !
VOTE 4 BONO! :bounce:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:06 AM
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40. ELVIS! Although...
of the choices given above, James Brown, Otis Redding, Dobie Gray, and Marvin Gaye would all pretty much rank evenly and jointly rule as #1. A few others would, too -- Jackie Wilson, Wilson Pickett, Brook Benton, Ray Charles, and more (including, of course, rural Delta blues singers the likes of Lightnin' Hopkins)...
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:21 AM
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44. I tried to get a broad spectrum in there
Ray Charles is a very good mention. As you can see, Some people were not entirely pleased. x(
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:24 AM
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45. By definition, it's not a broad spectrum
until Elvis is listed. :D
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:09 AM
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41. Where the Hell is Rick Astley?!
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:49 AM
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43. Yeah, Really?
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:49 PM
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49. He is entombed, awaiting the Resurrection.
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jdsmith Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:54 PM
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50. Sam Cooke, pre-78 Rod Stewart
and, on some incredible songs (e.g., "Dear Landlord"), Dylan.
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:42 PM
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52. While I can (barely) understand your reasoning
for including Darryl Hall, I think you missed a big one. If you want a white man with soul, look no farther than Steve Winwood.

Of course, even Winwood would rate no better than fourth on this list, behind Marvin Gaye, Otis Redding and James Brown.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:06 PM
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53. Good mention.
Too bad there are only 10 options :(
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:09 PM
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54. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 10:09 PM by TroubleMan
Where's Al Green?????????

Sam Cooke??????

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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:17 PM
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55. Where's Al Green?
Love & Happiness....
Let's Stay Together....
Here I Am (Come and Take Me).....

But most of these bruthas have so much soul, I can't just pick one!
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:25 PM
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56. BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB!!! Followed by Al Green
BB's rendition of "Ain't No Sunshine (when She's Gone)" is the best thing, ever. I saw him at The Blue Note in NYC and it was hands-down, the best performance I've ever seen. Love BB!

And Al's got a gorgeous voice.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:27 PM
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57. James
Fucking Brown! He's the Godfather!

I cannot believe the poll results at this time.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:09 PM
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59. Gotta be Marvin for me...
"What's Going On" is in my top ten desert island albums.

As far as "newbies" go, I'd have to give major props to Anthony Hamilton. The man can sing the hell out of a song, and reminds me of a young Bill Withers. "Coming From Where I'm From" is SPECTACULAR.

As far as "old school", let's hear it for Al "Show and Tell" Wilson, Al Green, Teddy Pendergrass, and also for the groups the Temptations, Earth Wind & Fire and the Commodores.

And just to stir things up, I have to toss in the greatest flamenco cantaor of all time, the late great Camaron de la Isla-- a talent whose flame burned out far too soon.

All of these are giants among men, IMHO.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:36 AM
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60. Vote more, why not
:shrug:
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