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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:05 PM
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Poll question: Is telling someone that 'their karma will get them' a threat?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:06 PM
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1. other- dont know
gimme the context.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:08 PM
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3. The context
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 03:17 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
would be criticizing someone's actions, and telling them that eventually their karma will catch up with them.

For example, if I were to say George Bush is a liar who will eventually be brought down by his own lies -- did I threaten the President?

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:10 PM
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6. not really a threat, just sayin
keep it up, you will get what is comin.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:07 PM
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2. its kinda like telling someone that they will go to hell
plus karma does not work like that
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:10 PM
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5. Doesn't work like what?
I understand karma to be "for every event that occurs, there will follow another event whose existence was caused by the first, and this second event will be pleasant or unpleasant according as its cause was skillful or unskillful."
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:13 PM
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8. yes but ones karma is tied up with the karma of the particular
society and the times in general...so our karma is tied up in bushs karma...thereby i cant threaten bush with his karma..it isnt as simple as YOUR karma..and MY karma
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:35 PM
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16. Technically, no
In Hindu tradition, karma is always bad, and never pleasant. "Good karma" is nonexistant.

Karma is literally translated as action, and the goal of Hinduism (at least the variant that I studied) is to have yoga (discipline) to stop acting and therefore be free of samsara.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:09 PM
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4. Depends on how you tell them
I've seen people try to use that kind of statement as a threat. I think maybe they need to focus on their own karma instead of other people's.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:11 PM
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7. Does predicting
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 03:18 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
that something bad will happen to someone because of their own actions constitute a threat?

Wouldn't a threat have to involve the person uttering it performing or causing some action?



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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:35 PM
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17. From reading your other posts in this thread...
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 03:36 PM by VelmaD
it seems like you want a blanket statement of absolution...to be told that "No" it is not a threat...and none of us can do that without knowing the totality of the situation. The fact that you are at least asking about it and thinking about it speaks well for you though.

It may well be that the person you were talking to was merely reacting out of defensiveness. It may be a situation where they felt threatened even through that was not your intention. However, you may also have been speaking to them from a place of irritation or anger with them over their behavior and could have been more forceful than you thought when you said it...which might have led to the perception of a threat. Those are just a couple of possibilities off the top of my head.

Like I said, that you are thinking about what happened is good for your own karma. And that's what we should all be worried about...our own karma.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:48 PM
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18. I'll give you a hint --
whenever you think you know what I'm thinking, and it's not what I said, you're probably wrong.


I don't believe in absolution. I don't want a blanket statement of absolution. I just wanted to know what other DUers thought about this question.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:17 PM
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9. Why are you asking?
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 03:19 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
I think it depends on the manner in which the statement is delivered and how many other things the individual has said.

I also think that if someone tells someone that karma will get them but has a history of predatory behavior with the individual it takes on a quite different meaning than if for instance an Indian Sikh expresses to a student of hinduism that karma will be with them.

Mark David Chapman and John Hinkley made some similar comments regarding Lennon and Jodie Foster and they weren't attempting to be spiritual advisors as history proved so...context matters.

As far as predicting something bad will happen to a person...one can predict then cause it to come true...so yes, it CAN be a threat when combined with the totality of one's actions.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:24 PM
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12. Because
I told someone that eventually their actions would rebound to them and they would learn that all our actions have consequences, and they accused me of threatening them.

Obviously, as you state, if I had some kind of 'history of predatory behavior' with that person, it could be seen as a threat. I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about simply telling someone they can't escape their karma.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:27 PM
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14. I had someone say that to me but their actions do amount to predatory
behavior..

If you said that to someone and do have a history of seeking their personal information and sending them other threatening notes after they have asked you to leave them alone, then yes it could be construed as a threat. When viewed in context, many statements can be considered threats that otherwise wouldn't.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:34 PM
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15. Yeah you said that already
obviously if someone has a history of threatening behavior, it's a different story.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:19 PM
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10. No, unless you plan to be a part of
that karma.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:22 PM
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11. The masked bashing I have seen here recently
Seems like talking about their Karma would be nothing
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:27 PM
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13. You might want to use "what comes around, goes around" instead
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 03:28 PM by mouse7
It's the same concept. The "what comes around..." is better understood by everyone in this society. Some freepers might think "Karma is gonna get them" is a threat to run someone over with a Korean manufactured sub-compact.
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