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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:51 PM
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Help with a famous photo that was in the public domain
This is the photo: http://www.popasmoke.com/visions/image.php?source=3873

Popasmoke has it copy restricted, as does the only other website where I found it. I used to copy it from a USMC archive site. I can't find that now.

I think it is in the top 10 pictures of the Vietnam War. It was taken in Hue during Tet '68 and I think it is the 3rd Tanks (Johnnyawl's outfit). Anybody know where I can find a down-loadable (is that a word?) copy of this pic?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:54 PM
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1. Is this it?
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:21 PM
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5. Bingo!
Thanks.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:10 PM
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15. Your welcome
Moving picture
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:55 PM
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2. Here you go Demo...
What Popasmoke knows about websites, I have forgotten....

http://207.137.168.225/j1johnolson huetet68.jpg


no way to restrict an image if someone really wants it.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:23 PM
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6. Bingo #2
Thanks Scooter!
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zbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:58 PM
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3. Here's another site. Also has more of Olson's work.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:23 PM
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7. Bingo #3
Thanks Zbird!
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:01 PM
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4. seeing that picture has brought tears to my eyes
I can't believe a new generation has to deal with the same crap of an unnecessary war and unnecessary death and countless maimed for life.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:26 PM
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8. Here's another (not really lounge material, but...)
http://www.michaelmoore.com

http://www.michaelmoore.com/index_hires.php
300k high res version

Extremely powerful contemporary collage at those links.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:29 PM
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9. I have more than a passing interest in this photo.
There is strong evidence that a cousin of mine was one of the medevac victims on this tank. He, and the history, indicate that he was (he was severely wounded and in shock). He died homeless in Dallas in early 1996, five months before I moved there. Staff members at the downtown soup kitchen in Dallas, the Stewpot, where I have done volunteer work for the past seven years, remember him. Sad story.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:35 PM
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10. How sad, so sorry for your cousin.
A good friend of mine is a nurse in the psych unit at the Hines VA hospital just outside of Chicago. They treat numerous Vietnam vets there. My friend has done significant research into PTSD and Vietnam vets and is active in the group linked below.

http://groups.msn.com/veteransforunification
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:49 PM
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13. Your nurse friend is doing God's work.
Unfortunately, that work is going to start stacking up exponentially.

My cousin was another story. Stateside, I mean. But first, I should say that he volunteered for a second 13 month tour in Vietnam (that was the '68 tour that got him to Hue). Stateside it was a downward spiral of drugs, alcohol, and homelessness. He was incommunicado from the family for years (last time I saw him was in 1967, between his Vietnam tours). Too bad. He inherited a small sum of money near the end, but could not be found for probate. His name was the same as mine .. Mac (for our Grandad, McLean Smith).
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:50 PM
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14. My friend works with a lot of guys who sound like him.
Fortunately, they go to the VA for help. Nice guys. I have met some of them. And they have been through hell.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:59 PM
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16. I am so sorry.
I can't believe that we did this again. I can't believe it.

I was driving my children home from school one day more than a year ago and talking about the probable invasion of Iraq and I suddenly burst into tears. I had to pull the car over to the side of the road. My children were stunned.

I was their ages in 1968 - 1970. I didn't want this to happen again.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 05:10 PM
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18. See, this is an arguement I was having with someone the other
day at the VA.
I maintain there are far many more than 58k deaths from VietNam. I would count your cousin, and lots of people I know personally and have heard of that were never productive after the war.
Just goes to show how bad wars are, and how against this one I am.
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:39 PM
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11. Does anyone know if Walter Reed looks as bad as
Bronx VA did back in the Viet Nam days? It breaks my heart just thinking of it.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 05:11 PM
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19. Hell does not look as bad as the Bronx VA did in those days
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:39 PM
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12. A gimmick that often works is to save the webpage with the picture
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 09:40 PM by Vitruvius
you want, then go into the "files" folder for that webpage and find the picture; then move the picture wherever you want it, and throw the rest of the webpage info away. It works on the popasmoke page you linked to; the picture is in the files folder and named j1johnolson huetet68...

If you can save the webpage, you by definition have saved the picture...
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:10 PM
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17. The Marine Holding the Wounded Man....
looks so damn young and scared. It just breaks my heart.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 05:13 PM
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20. Most likely a Hospital Corpsman
At least it looks like it from his gear you can see. That is a box of Morphine Syrettes stuck under the strap on his helmet.
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freeminder Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 05:31 PM
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21. have a look at the list
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 05:32 PM by freeminder
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/casualties/facesofthefallen.htm

I just stumbled onto that from the links in Wonk's post #8, and even though I'm not a US citizen my heart aches when I see how these...kids really...gave their lives.

My thoughts go to anyone whose life is touched by this insanity.
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