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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:04 PM
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Hey, David Brooks! Here are your unhinged conspiracy theorist full-mooners
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 05:42 PM by Stephanie
Yeah David, it's really outrageous that "all these articles" and "web sites" have the nerve to report on PNAC and the neo-con agenda. Since you didn't bother to identify any of these "full mooners" with their "ludicrous" stories, I put together this handy reference guide for you. Next time maybe you can add some cites to your irrational diatribes.


The full-mooners fixated on a think tank called the Project for the New American Century, which has a staff of five and issues memos on foreign policy. To hear these people describe it, PNAC is sort of a Yiddish Trilateral Commission, the nexus of the sprawling neocon tentacles.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/06/opinion/06BROO.html



Could Tony Blair look at the internet now, please? - UK Observer 3/2/03
NY Times Op-Eds 03/02/03 (Dowd, Friedman)
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
"It's the Kissinger plan" - Mother Jones - March/April 2003
Guardian 2/26/03 - Decisions, decisions (re designs for US hegemony
New Nat'l Sec'y Strategy: Pre-emptive Strikes (NYT, WP, Guardian)
A think tank war: Why old Europe says no - SMH (from Der Spiegel) 3/7/03
The Bush lies pushing the world to the brink -Robert Scheer - Salon 3/5/03
The president's real goal in Iraq - Atlanta Journal Constitution 9/29/02
The Plan - ABC News Nightline 3/10/03
Lunch With The Chairman (Perle) - Seymour Hersh-New Yorker 3/17/03
Invading Iraq not a new idea for Bush clique - Philadelphia Daily News Jul-14-03
Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11- CBS News 9/4/02
Anger at peace talks 'meddling' (Perle sabotages talks) 7/13/2000 Guardian:
A Wilful Blindness - George Monbiot - London Guardian 03/11/03
9/11 gave life to U.S. imperial ambitions - Japan Times - 3/14/03
Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming Pres. - Herald-9/15/02
A world safe for democracy, or perpetual war? - Star Tribune 3/16/03
Is Iraq the opening salvo in a war to remake the world? - TAP 3/18/03
White House Claims: A Pattern of Deceit -Inst. for Public Accuracy 3/18/03
The Men From JINSA and CSP - The Nation, August 15, 2002
This war is brought to you by ... Asia Times 3/20/03
(Perle) Also Advising Global Crossing - NYTimes-03/21/03
Pentagon Strategy Creates Rift Among Hawks - Alternet 3/21/03
Pre-emption: Idea With a Lineage Whose Time Has Come | NYT | 3/23/03
US thinktanks give lessons in foreign policy - UK Guardian 8/02/03
The Madness of Empire - The American Conservative
The Wraps Come Off Bush's Colonialist Agenda - LA Times 3/25/03
Practice to Deceive - Wash. Monthly -Joshua Micah Marshall 4/03
Defense Adviser Perle Resigns - WP 3/27
Pentagon Adviser Is Stepping Down (Perle) - NYT-3/28
Woolsey: U.S. faces 'World War IV' - CNN - 4/3/03
Road to Baghdad Paved by 'Scoop' Jackson - Seattle PI 4/6/03
Neoconservative clout seen in U.S. Iraq policy -Milwaukee Journal Sentinal
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
How neoconservatives conquered Washington - Salon 4/9/03
Bush ready to fight war on two fronts - Guardian 4/13/03
Privatization in Disguise - The Nation 4/10/03
The Strategist and the Philosopher (Strauss) - Le Monde (via truthout)
Hawks Rip Into Mideast Plan - LA Times
Whose war is this? | Pat Buchanan USA Today 09/26/2001
Why look in the crystal ball? - Terry Jones, Guardian 5/4/03
Perle Briefed Seminar on How to Profit From Iraq - AP 5/7/03
Consulting and Policy Overlap (Perle) - LA Times | 5/7/03
Strong Must Rule the Weak, said Neo-Cons' Muse (Strauss) - Truthout | 5/8/03
The Philosopher (Strauss) - Boston Globe | 5/11/03
SELECTIVE INTELLIGENCE - S. Hersh, The New Yorker 5/12/03
Father Strauss Knows Best - NYT | 5/4/03
A PNAC Primer: How We Got Into This Mess - Bernard Weiner, Counterpunch
Five steps to the world according to Bush -Neil Mckay Sunday Herald 6/1/03
A mission in Iraq built on a lie - Sydney Morning Herald 6/16/03
The spies who pushed for war (OSP) - Guardian, 7/17/03
Seymour Hersh - Who Lied To Whom (New Yorker Mar 2003)
Are Neocons cooking their own goose? - Sacramento Bee 7/27/03
Get real | Guardian 8/26/03
This war on terrorism is bogus | M. Meacher, UK Guardian, 9/6/03
Empire Builders - Neoconservatives and their blueprint for US power | Christian Science Monitor
Iraq: It was never about Sept. 11 MN Startribune
THE STOVEPIPE by SEYMOUR M. HERSH | The New Yorker - 10/27/03
Cheney's hawks 'hijacking policy' | SMH (Australia) 10/30/03
War critics astonished as US hawk admits invasion was illegal (Perle) | UK Guardian

Excerpts of the above articles can be viewed here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:05 PM
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1. Nice homework!
Damn.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:07 PM
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2. I hope you include all those wonderful references in your
letter to the editor @ the NYTimes.....
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 03:26 PM
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23. Today's letters all deal w/ Brooks attempt to smear critcs as anti-Semites
His other lies are not addressed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/07/opinion/L07BROO.html?...

************************

To the Editor:

Re "The Era of Distortion," by David Brooks (column, Jan. 6):

I fully support Mr. Brooks's right to take liberals to task for whatever he disagrees with them about; we liberals are recently discovering we have the right to do the same. But to equate criticism of "neocons" with anti-Semitism is not only a weak attempt to deflect genuine criticism of the hawks in President Bush's administration, but it is also a deeply cynical way to attempt to cut off debate. For example, "if you criticize this president or his advisers, you're anti-Semitic."

You could also easily replace "anti-Semitic" with "unpatriotic" or "anti-family," as we've heard from Republicans in the last few years.

I adhere to the theory that a group of hawks or neocons has hijacked this nation's foreign policy. But the religion of the advisers in question is not, and should not, be a part of the argument. It is Mr. Brooks who has inserted religion into the debate.

CLARKE STALLWORTH
Savannah, Ga., Jan. 6, 2004

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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:13 PM
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3. that is a nice list
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:13 PM
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4. Beautiful! (nt)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:14 PM
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5. Reformatted for easier copying
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 05:19 PM by Stephanie
http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,905990,00....
Could Tony Blair look at the internet now, please? - UK Observer 3/2/03

NY Times Op-Eds 03/02/03
(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/02/opinion/02DOWD.html - Dowd
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/02/opinion/02FRIE.html - Friedman )

http://www.ceip.org/files/Iraq/index.htm
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/10/ma_273_...
"It's the Kissinger plan" - Mother Jones - March/April 2003 Guardian 2/26/03 -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,903075,00.h...
Decisions, decisions (re designs for US hegemony

New Nat'l Sec'y Strategy: Pre-emptive Strikes
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/20/international/20STRA.... - NYT
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43744-20... - WP
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,796192,00.h... - Guardian

http://smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/07/1046826528748.htm...
A think tank war: Why old Europe says no - SMH (from Der Spiegel) 3/7/03

http://www.salon.com/news/col/scheer/2003/03/05/bushlie...
The Bush lies pushing the world to the brink -Robert Scheer - Salon 3/5/03

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2319.ht...
The president's real goal in Iraq - Atlanta Journal Constitution 9/29/02

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac...
The Plan - ABC News Nightline 3/10/03

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030317fa_fact
Lunch With The Chairman (Perle) - Seymour Hersh-New Yorker 3/17/03

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/2003/01/27/news/loc...
Invading Iraq not a new idea for Bush clique - Philadelphia Daily News Jul-14-03

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/m...
Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11 - CBS News 9/4/02

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,342857,00...
Anger at peace talks 'meddling' (Perle sabotages talks) 7/13/2000 Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,9117...
A Wilful Blindness - George Monbiot - London Guardian 03/11/03

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/geted.pl5?eo2003031...
9/11 gave life to U.S. imperial ambitions - Japan Times - 3/14/03

http://www.sundayherald.com/27735
Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming Pres. - Herald-9/15/02

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1762/3758290.html
A world safe for democracy, or perpetual war? - Star Tribune 3/16/03

http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/4/dreyfuss-r.html
Is Iraq the opening salvo in a war to remake the world? - TAP 3/18/03

http://www.accuracy.org/press_releases/PR031803.htm
White House Claims: A Pattern of Deceit -Inst. for Public Accuracy 3/18/03

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020902&s=vest&c=...
The Men From JINSA and CSP - The Nation, August 15, 2002

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EC20Ak07.html
This war is brought to you by ... Asia Times 3/20/03

<http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html
?res=F10D10F73A550C728EDDAA0894DB404482>
(Perle) Also Advising Global Crossing - NYTimes-03/21/03

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15439
Pentagon Strategy Creates Rift Among Hawks - Alternet 3/21/03

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/23/international/worldsp...
Pre-emption: Idea With a Lineage Whose Time Has Come - NYT - 3/23/03

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,...
US thinktanks give lessons in foreign policy - UK Guardian 8/02/03

http://www.amconmag.com/02_24_03/cover.html
The Madness of Empire - The American Conservative

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0325-04.htm
The Wraps Come Off Bush's Colonialist Agenda - LA Times 3/25/03

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0304.mar...
Practice to Deceive - Wash. Monthly -Joshua Micah Marshall 4/03

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38829-20...
Defense Adviser Perle Resigns - WP 3/27

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/28/business/28GLOB.html?...
Pentagon Adviser Is Stepping Down (Perle) - NYT-3/28

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/03/sprj.irq.woolsey.world...
Woolsey: U.S. faces 'World War IV' - CNN - 4/3/03

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/115505_focus06.sh...
Road to Baghdad Paved by 'Scoop' Jackson - Seattle PI 4/6/03

http://www.jsonline.com/news/gen/apr03/131523.asp
Neoconservative clout seen in U.S. Iraq policy -Milwaukee Journal Sentinal

http://www.ceip.org/files/Iraq/index.htm#regime_change
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2003/04/09/neocons
How neoconservatives conquered Washington - Salon 4/9/03

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,935812,00.h...
Bush ready to fight war on two fronts - Guardian 4/13/03

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030428&s=klein
Privatization in Disguise - The Nation 4/10/03

http://truthout.org/docs_03/042003H.shtml
The Strategist and the Philosopher (Strauss) - Le Monde (via truthout)

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=417&...
Reported Hawks Rip Into Mideast Plan - LA Times

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2001-09-27-ncguest...
Whose war is this? - Pat Buchanan USA Today 09/26/2001

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,...
Why look in the crystal ball? - Terry Jones, Guardian 5/4/03

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20030507_540.html
Perle Briefed Seminar on How to Profit From Iraq - AP 5/7/03

http://www.latimes.com/la-na-perle7may07,1,5452752.stor...
Consulting and Policy Overlap (Perle) - LA Times - 5/7/03

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/050903I.shtml
Strong Must Rule the Weak, said Neo-Cons' Muse (Strauss) - Truthout - 5/8/03

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg10...
The Philosopher (Strauss) - Boston Globe - 5/11/03

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact
SELECTIVE INTELLIGENCE - S. Hersh, The New Yorker 5/12/03

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2003/05/04/weekinrevi...
Father Strauss Knows Best - NYT - 5/4/03

http://www.counterpunch.org/weiner05282003.html
A PNAC Primer: How We Got Into This Mess - Bernard Weiner, Counterpunch

http://www.sundayherald.com/34271
Five steps to the world according to Bush -Neil Mckay Sunday Herald 6/1/03

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/15/1055615673779...
A mission in Iraq built on a lie - Sydney Morning Herald 6/16/03

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,99...
The spies who pushed for war (OSP) - Guardian, 7/17/03

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/content/?030714fr_arch...
Seymour Hersh - Who Lied To Whom (New Yorker Mar 2003)

http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/7112547p-80...
Are Neocons cooking their own goose? - Sacramento Bee 7/27/03

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,...
Get real - Guardian 8/26/03 Stephanie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,103...
This war on terrorism is bogus - M. Meacher, UK Guardian, 9/6/03

http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/spheresInfluen...
Empire Builders - Neoconservatives and their blueprint for US power - Christian Science Monitor

http://www.startribune.com/stories/561/4139374.html
Iraq: It was never about Sept. 11 MN Startribune

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031027fa_fact
THE STOVEPIPE by SEYMOUR M. HERSH - The New Yorker - 10/27/03

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/29/1067233251576...
Cheney's hawks 'hijacking policy' - SMH (Australia) 10/30/03

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1089158,00....
War critics astonished as US hawk admits invasion was illegal (Perle) - UK Guardian
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:18 PM
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6. please send that...
....to Somerby and MWO!

Outstanding.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:22 PM
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7. Free for all to copy and send
They're the links that were collected by DUers over the past year. Exerpts in the Bush/Conservatives folder. PNAC Links Archive.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:10 PM
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14. Thank you
VERY MUCH!!! :bounce:
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Ekova Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:22 PM
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8. This here is why I love this place.
Nicely done, thanks for putting that together.

E.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:46 PM
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24. Hi Ekova!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:00 PM
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25. I Love You Stephanie
Are You Married?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:01 PM
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27. Not married
LOL!
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:40 PM
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9. Excellent
more proof.

:bounce: :yourock: :bounce:
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:38 PM
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10. kick.



MDN

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:04 PM
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11. Anyone who hasn't done so should go to the PNAC website
Just check out the signatories to the various "memos." Recognize any names?

http://www.newamericancentury.org/publicationsreports.h...
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:08 PM
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12. Better yet
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:08 PM
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13. and compare to Bush's National Security Strategy
it's taken almost word for word from PNAC docs.

Here's the url at the white house website:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:18 PM
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15. Nice Job with the List
David Brooks is a lame-ass excuse for a journalist and one of the many reasons why the NY Times has lost much of it's credibility IMO.

Sometimes I feel like I am reading NY's other joke of a paper, the NY Post.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:22 PM
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17. amen, smirkmonk
Brooks has the cachet of a "best seller," which somehow gives him the aura of respectable evenhandedness.

he's a smooth operator, to those that spend their news consuming moments delving no deeper than the NYT oped pages or the farleft (ha!) babblings of the neoweezes of the Petroleum Broadcast System/National Petroleum Radio.

keep this list on the front page for awhile.....bookmark it for future reference.

I am sick unto DEATH of the nauseating RW submedia, or whatever TomPaine here has so aptly called it.

THAT is the real enemy....not the pugparty.

but it's so obvious
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:18 PM
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16. Very good
Excellent compilation there.

Also, good thing I didn't immediately hit reply and post a recommendation to place it in DUs PNAC repository... Dh!
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:26 PM
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18. Bookmarked. Thank. You. Stephanie. For. This.
......
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:26 PM
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19. Outstanding post, Stephanie!
As always.

BTW: America and people who love America need to know ...

The Bushes and the bin Ladens go way back

Chances are that George W. Bush didn't need to be tutored on how to pronounce Osama bin Laden's name, after the President was informed about the events of 9/11 while reading that story about the goat to grade-schoolers in Sarasota, Florida. The bin Ladens and the Bushes go way back.

Like many ultra-rich Saudis, the bin Laden brood has always had a thing for Texas. The patriarch of the bin Laden clan, Mohammed bin Laden, the son of a Yemeni bricklayer who moved to Saudi Arabia and struck it rich in the construction business, flew frequently to Dallas to seal deals with his associates in the oil industry, often in his private jet.

Mohammed died in a plane crash in Saudi Arabia. One of his elder sons, Saleem, died near Houston when his ultra-light airplane hit power lines. Of all the bin Ladens, it was Saleem who had the close relationship to the Bushes. The connection was a Houston wheeler-dealer named James Bath, who haunted the darker back corridors of the Bush-Reagan years, amid the fragrance of scandals ranging from Iran/contra to BCCI to the Silverado Savings and Loan debacle to Iranian weapons mogul Adnan Khashoggi.

Bath was an Air Force fighter pilot in Vietnam who ended up in the National Guard in Houston, where he first met George W. Bush, who had fled to the Guard in order to avoid combat. Bath and Bush became fast friends, with Bush later recalling that "Bath is a lot of fun".

CONTINUED...

http://members.tripod.com/homowo/anansesgrapevine2/id2....
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nightperson Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:39 AM
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20. Joshua Micah Marshall's response
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 02:50 AM by secondtermdenier
I wonder what is going on with David Brooks? He usually seems to play it safer. That article was both antagonistic and lightweight: the minute I read it I thought it seemed like a softball lobbed to his rival yet "co-religionist" Joshua Micah Marshall to slam-http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_01_04.h...
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:41 AM
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21. Great work !!
nt
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:22 AM
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22. Today's LTE don't address the deceptions employed in this essay
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 11:31 AM by Stephanie
Here, David attempts to conflate two unlike accusations.

In these communities, half-truths get circulated and exaggerated. Dark accusations are believed because it is delicious to believe them. Vince Foster was murdered. The Saudis warned the Bush administration before Sept. 11.


The Foster case was thoroughly investigated and determined to be a suicide. September 11th has NOT been thoroughly investigated yet, two years later, because the Bush administration refuses to cooperate and has in fact impeded the investigation every step of the way. We don't know yet whether the implication about the Saudis is true. It certainly has not been proven false. Release the 28 pages. Release the August 6 briefing. Then we might know.

What a cheap method of attempting to confuse the reader. Does this meet the Times' journalistic standards? Where's the brand new ombudsman?

Here's another sly prevarication:


There have been hundreds of references, for example, to Richard Perle's insidious power over administration policy, but I've been told by senior administration officials that he has had no significant meetings with Bush or Cheney since they assumed office.


Perle chaired the Defense Policy Board, until he was demoted to mere member of the Board due to his outrageous conflicts of interest (advising companies on how to profit on the imminent Iraq invasion while agitating for the invasion at the same time). The Board MEETS in the Pentagon:


If you could slip past the soldiers toting M-16s at the door, the Pentagon's 17 miles of corridors ...

So it was alarming when one secret agency's work spilled into the open recently, only to be dismissed by almost everyone involved. Meeting last month in Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's private conference room, a group called the Defense Policy Board heard an outside expert... http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.22A.war.council.htm <Time Magazine>


There are many, many other people Perle would have met with who are not named Bush or Cheney. He obviously met with Rumsfeld. Maybe Powell. Certainly Wolfowitz, Feith, and others.

Notice also that Perle is said to have had no significant meetings with Cheney/Bush. Oh, there were meetings. Just not significant ones. And those "senior administration officials" will be the judge of that. Thanks Dick! And good one, David!

And this! Mind-numbingly deceptive:


...the Project for the New American Century, which has a staff of five and issues memos on foreign policy...


PNAC may have a staff of five, but Brooks fails to mention the many prominent members of the current administration who are signatories to those "memos," starting with Dick Cheney. The report Rebuilding Americas Defenses runs 90 pages - this is a "memo"? And I doubt that Perle and Wolfowitz were actually "on staff" at PNAC, unless Perle was running the copier. Check out the signatories to the PNAC's Statement of Purpose, which include Cheney, Libby, Jeb Bush, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.

Just a few of the deceptions Brooks employs in his desperate attempt to deflect attention from PNAC. I can't believe the Times printed this. So there are no journalistic standards for the Op-Ed page? As neo-con spokesman you can employ whatever deceptive methods of persuasion you can get away with?
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:15 PM
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26. he's one of Franken's Lying Liars
thanks for this thread Steph.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:03 PM
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28. MWO posted the list
On the letters page - scroll down:

http://www.mwo1.com/letters04.htm
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rhite5 Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:15 AM
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29. Whoo-Hoo!
MWO posted the list

That's great!

Couldn't help noticing what a nice assortment of international and domestic sources are on the list. (many of the latter are mainstream)

Good going, Stef!
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:45 AM
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30. kick
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:19 PM
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31. And another
:kick:
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