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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 08:53 AM
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Republican support for Bush softening?
I live with a Republican. Last spring I interviewed Jag ("RepubFriend") several times and posted the interviews to DU. At the time, Jag was very pro-Bush and pro-PNAC.

Last night I asked him if he planned to vote for Bush in the upcoming election. "It depends who else is on the ballot," Jag said. "But overall, I think the evil you know is better than the evil you don't know."

Has anyone else seen actual, dyed-in-the-wool Republicans losing some of their support for Bush?

Tucker
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ablbodyed Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:03 AM
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1. Actuall, Yes....
I live in a conservative area of the northease and I find that there are some Repubs that are disenchanted with *, mostly women, but they say that their husbands are also. Whether that will translate into votes for a Dem or not.....
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libview Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:04 AM
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2. I know conservatives that are very unhappy with Bush
because of the spending, but they are not going to the polls and vote for a Democrat. They are unhappy about the Medicare bill and campain finance mostly, not the war.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:06 AM
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3. True, but...
If 1 in 100 of those Republicans decides to stay home instead of vote, it could make a huge difference in some swing states.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:07 AM
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4. If they are TRUE Republicans, the should be disenchanted with Bush
None of what he has done has been Republican or conservative.
* Invading a foreign country
* Increasing government spending
* Expansion of federal government
* Intrusions on personal privacies and freedoms

I don't particularly care if they vote for Dems or not. If they just stay home and don't vote, we will win.
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TomNickell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:09 AM
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5. Just a few have to stay home...
or stay out of the argument over the lunch counter.

Repubs have 'wedge issues' just like Dems. The conservative movement of the '90s really was made up of incompatible elements--libertarian conservatives, religious fundamentalists, Southern whites, along with traditional Republican business conservatives.

Hopefully, the Dem nominee will be smart enough to exploit these divisions.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:10 AM
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6. Out here in Nebraka...
the support for bush has become silent. That is a VERY ominous sign for the GOP. These people will probably still vote for bush, (talking about morals, and actually adhering to them, are two different things), although the will hold their noses when they do.

When a state like NE goes quiet in supporting a GOP president, there is a definite shift in the political breeze.

O8)
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:31 AM
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7. the silence is a real presence where I live too
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 09:41 AM by havocmom
shrub* took over 80% of the vote in this county (a very small population to be sure) but I do not hear anyone voicing support of him now. And the silence started last January with the State of the Union address. They were hoping for some grand vision and instead got drivel and lies. Deep in their souls, they knew it. They were disappointed and since then, that disappointment has morphed to distrust, disgust and now there is open anger.

True conservatives have more in common with liberals than with the dangerous elements who have usurped power in this nation. They are waking up to that fact. Constitutionalists are not amused by the antics of the Dept of (selective) Justice and the blurring of the line separating church and state. Fiscal conservatives are not tickled pink with a roaring deficit and sinking prospects for workers to find employment that enables them to enjoy productivity and increase the tax base. They don't seemed happy with companies pulling the rug out from under dedicated workers via loss of jobs, benefits, pensions, They are mad as hell about dividend checks shrinking or disappearing. While not begrudging companies making profit, they see the obscenity of profit at the cost of destroying the nation with their changing laws to allow for their illegal ventures, using US military as security guards for their international plundering, turning the stock marker in to a pyramid of cards and avoiding paying their fair share of taxes to support the infastructure.

Also, many people on government payroll are old-time conservatives who really do love this country and know that to serve is good. Now they are being villianized and pointed to as the reason taxes are high. 'If government were fun like a business...' is being used to try and pit citizens against government workers. Then the privatization drum was beaten as a solution to a problem which was mostly fictitious anyway. These workers know privatization will only allow more layers of executives into the mix. Privatize government services and you get less accountability and more accounting irregularities. More CEOs get overpaid and the tax base shrinks again.

We need to court these disillusioned Americans and show them we can unite to take this nation back from the greedy tyrants who have a stranglehold on it.

eidt: typo and for clarity. Anybody have some coffee?
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