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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 07:58 AM
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Why did 9/11 happen?
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 08:02 AM by La_Serpiente
I am amazed that some people in America still have not bothered to answer that question. I asked my mother tonight and she had no clue at all.

I haven't found an exact answer myself, but at least I have taken the initiative to look for it.

I think it is imperative that Americans learn about why 9/11 happened. Why do you think 9/11 happened?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:04 AM
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ParticipatoryDem Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:08 AM
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2. Good question
Why did the first WTC bombing happpen?
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:10 AM
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4. I'm trying to look at this from the social aspect
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:14 PM
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28. Funny how some questions are ignored
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:32 PM
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30. For a really serious and thorough answer to this question go to C-Span.org
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 05:33 PM by loudnclear
Check out the second video: Clovis Maksoud, Professor of International Relations at American University.

He address discusses every aspect of your question...cover areas most people don't even think about. It's worth listening to. Anyone on this board who is seriously seeking an answer to your question should click this link and listen to the playback without interruption.

http://www.c-span.org /

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 06:25 PM
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34. What was the reason that the guys clinton jailed gave, for doing it?
I believe it was retaliation for the US threats towards the middle east under the prior bush regime. Those fellas don't seem to care much which president is causing trouble.
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:09 AM
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3. rich & powerful white men
contributing factors,
k-street
madison avenue
repeal of the fairness doctrine
corruption of the justice system
poor educational system for the masses
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:11 AM
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5. Decades of supporting despots and wars in the middle
east in an attempt to keep oil prices low . Decades of policy geared only toward the financial well being of the US and US corporations with no regard for the effects of those policies on the people of the countries involved.

And of course there is the unconditional support of Israel's oppression of the Palestinian people.


The United States wasn't always hated like is today.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:16 AM
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9. It really saddens me as a citizen of the US
that we have treated these countries in the Middle East like gas stations of the world for all these years. I just wish American citizens would want to learn as to why this horrible tragedy happened.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:12 AM
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6. Because rich men want more money

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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:13 AM
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7. In OBL's own words, he was extremely offended and opposed to US troops in
Saudi Arabia. He considers Saudi Arabia to be holy ground. (Well, not exactly his words, I paraphrased.) It is also known that OBL is against the US for our support of the Saudi Arabia government, who enriched themselves with the wealth of their nation at the expense of the people.

I personally believe 9/11 would not have happened if bush were not in office. But that's just my personal hunch, I have nothing to support that with.

Also keeping in mind that like Saddam, OBL is a past allie of reagan/bush and they aided him in Afghanistan in their fight against the FSU.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:52 AM
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11. 9/11 would of happened no matter who was in office
I don't remember the year, not to long after the first WTC bombing when the plans were found in the Philipines on crashing airliners into the trade towers. Seems to me nobody, repug or democrat took these plans seriously
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:02 PM
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20. Bullshit. BULLSHIT.
Clinton, and Gore, took them VERY SERIOUSLY. The Republican congress was too busy sniffing Clinton's crotch to GIVE A SHIT.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:08 PM
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21. and once again, BULLSHIT
the Clinton administration handed BushCo EXTENSIVE information about the terror threat.

it was shelved and IGNORED because it was *clinton* and therefore tainted.

Clinton/Gore thwarted MANY terrorist plots and would have been on top of this one too.

Gore would NOT have told intelligence agencies to 'lay off' the Saudis.
Gore would NOT have caved to the airline industry regarding improving security.

do just a 'little' research, please.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:03 PM
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27. That is one great thing about America
everyone is allowed to have an opinion.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:37 AM
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13. But bin laden has claimed he didn't do 9.11, although he knew about it..
therefore, the guys who did it were just nuts; fanatical nuts who obsessed about destroying icons of western infuence.
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:44 AM
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14. Go Seminoles
"Also keeping in mind that like Saddam, OBL is a past allie of reagan/bush and they aided him in Afghanistan in their fight against the FSU."



Oh, you must have been using short hand for the Former Soviet Union, not Florida State University, my bad. :evilgrin:
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:14 AM
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8. I have many theories
I know one thing for sure. 9/11 happened because of intelligence failures and Bush ignoring the warnings.


As for why it happened as in them allowing it to happen. One thing for sure is that people rally around a learder in a time of war. This is why Bush allowed it to happen because he knew his political rating support would be unquestionable like FDR's. Karl Rove knew the media would never question him as well because "he's a war hero president."
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:36 PM
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17. "9/11 was not an intelligence failure . . .
. . . it was (and continues to be) an intelligence success." (Mike Rupert) www.fromthewilderness.com

What has happened since and in large measure what is happening now is precisely what the neocons want--the reason they were willing to take this enormous risk. The world is running out of oil. The US needs to have its military strategicly positioned throughout the middle east to retain its global hegemony. Its that simple.
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:27 AM
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10. They needed it to happen
Whether they new about it, let it happen, or didn't know, they've gained from it. From the moment it happened. PNAC has been around since 1997, and the idea of it you could say goes back to the early 90's. Actually, the mentality has been around for longer than that. War happens because of something other than just fighting for freedom. Any war. Land, religion, money, resources, it all works. It has worked. It is working. It will continue to work. That's basically human history. That's why you hear that when we supported Hussein, it was ok, because it was a different world back in the 80's. Even though we knew he was a murderer, there was a bigger goal back then.

It's all a game. Today we support a dictator, tomorrow we back away, and next week we go to war with that dictator.

We didn't go into space because we could. We did it to beat the Soviets.

Nothing big ever gets done just because. Or for the fun of it. It happens for certain reasons. That's how it's been, how it is, and probably how it will always be.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:29 AM
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12. Because of our foreign policy - eom
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:16 AM
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15. Because they hate our freedom
LOL!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:49 PM
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22. * called his daddy -- "they don't like me. Help!"
Poppy called his old buddies. They huddled around the PNAC nightlight.

And they called thier old buddy Osama. And told him "hey, we could use a nice terrorist attack here. Something dramatic."

And Osama delivered.

Bush got everything he ever wanted. He's now a "hero".

Everybody wins. Oh except us of course. America has died. I never thought I'd see it happen. It's kind of like when the Berlin wall came down. Never thought I'd see that either.

But there it is. Undeniable. We're now living in a corporate-fascist state that was the stuff of bad sci-fi a few years ago (think "Starship Troopers")
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:20 AM
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16. to launch the Bush GOPNAC Cabal's 2001 marketing campaign
It was like a grand opening sale to kick off the perpetual end-days war.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:41 PM
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18. It was payback for the first Gulf war and then leaving troops all over...
...the place after it was over in many Arab states to protect our oil underneath them funny talking, brown peoples sand. I thought everyone knew that?

Don

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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:06 PM
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19. The Carlyle-Halliburton Administration needed it...
Without 9-11, they were going nowhere fast...

"Lucky me. I hit the trifecta!"
-EvilBush III
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:54 PM
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24. Couldn't agree more
I think they knew something was going to happen, I don't think they knew it was the magnitude of what did happen, I really think it surprised them but they did know something was afoot, just not something as large. And of course it played into their plans better than just a normal everyday hijacking. I personally think they were looking for the old run of the mill hijacking thus the reason for not putting the airlines on alert. They were so stupid they did not look towards a larger threat or did not believe it could happen. 9-11 happened because the * is incompitent and he gambled with Americans security for PNAC's goals.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:52 PM
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23. because of TEEN IDOLS!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 06:10 PM
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31. You mean "America's Cocktease" Britney Spears
You might have a point there.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:58 PM
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25. Because the NeoCons needed their Pearl Harbor.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:02 PM
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26. Queers dammit,all because of queers!! Didn't you listen to brother Jerry?
3,000 needed to die because of our heinous lifestyle--mostly those damn queers running amok in US. If it hadn't been for queers in the US UBL would have had aircraft flying into buildings in some other country.

David
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:19 PM
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29. Quite
Apparently, "God lifted his veil of protection" to teach Muricans a lesson.

I didn't know that God was the Director of the CIA.

Don't tell Tenet. He thinks God is in the White House.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 06:14 PM
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32. To advance a scary neocon agenda. (nt)
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csc Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 06:23 PM
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33. WE DID IT
9/11 happened because we created the environment of hatred for money. you didn't see any attacks on our country when clinton was in office but 9 months after bush takes over BAM they had enough and they knew it would only get worst with him around for 4 yers. we exploited the middle east for decades so rich white males could have there sports cars and SUVs and when clinton was out of office the exploitation got to bad they had to respond. I wish they didnt have to send us such a huge wakeup call in NYC but what else could they have done. we create their leaders then take their oil for nothing. we don't care so they free forced to bomb us. But instead of taking the enlighted position after 9/11 what did bush do? war. First he destroyed afghanistan then he goes and destroyes iraq. who's next? Poor Libia they have allowed ameriKKKa to destoy its weapons because there afraid that the madman in the White(man) House will destroy libia to. if gore had been in office he would have immediately imposed progressive marxist economic policies to begin distributing wealth fairly in this country instead of letting a few hogs oink up all the money. THERE IS NO FREEDOM IN A SOCIETY THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO OWN PROPERTY. IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO BE FREE GREED MUST BE BANNED. WE SAW THE RESULT OF OUR GREED ON 911/
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:13 PM
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35. The first bombing of the World Trade Center while Clinton was in office
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 10:19 PM by demsrule4life
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