Remember the "something big" comment about Clark in a recent thread????

[Gloria]

Well, I went down to Clark HQ today and spent a long time talking to the guy who's running the local show...he worked on Gary Hart's campaign years ago.

Anyway, I was discussing DU with him and the various topics being raised. He said that things that are percolating on activist sites like DU are showing up 2-4 weeks later in the polls.

Then I mentioned that someone had talked about "something big" in the Clark campaign. His reaction was...well...interesting to say the least.
He kind of jokingly reacted with "I don't know anything" then had this smile on his face. I just looked at him. I said, "Well, we know Clinton isn't going to be endorsing...." He sort of kept that mysterious look on his face, then tried to explain it all away by saying that "if Clark does well, then things could break."

I came away with the feeling that something is brewing...but again, the question is ...WHAT??

Anyway, it looks like I'll be very active in the campaign using my market research background and my past experience with precinct maps. He's going to run a couple of ideas past the regional guy, Kyle, who I met, but who had to leave. This could really be fun!

[bicentennial_baby]

1. I've heard

to keep an eye out around Fri-Sat (12/19-12/20)from someone relatively close to the campaign...We shall see! :bounce:

[Mz Pip]

2. Interesting

I'm going to a fundraiser tomorrow and we will watch the biographical film of Clark. I'll let you know if I hear anything! :-)

MzPip
:dem:

[Ladyhawk]

3. An endorsement by Clinton wouldn't be enough.

This would have to be something positively ground-breaking. Just an opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.

I really am at the point of not caring who gets the Dem nod as long as it isn't Lieberman. Too much carnage for my tastes. I'm going to keep my head down and vote blue when the time comes. California is late in the primaries...won't matter anyway.

[giantrobot_2000]

4. Ha

"An endorsement by Clinton wouldn't be enough."

You're funny!

Biiiiiiiiiiiiiig doooooooooooooooog!

[Ladyhawk]

19. Nope.

Too many people are "sick" of the scandalous Clinton years, even if most of the scandals were Republican lies. I didn't know that then. I came away from the Clinton years wanting a change and made a big mistake. A Clinton nomination will alienate some centrists who were fooled into believing all those scandals.

Back when the Monica thing broke, it was a big deal to me. Fidelity in relationships is important to me. Seeing a man with so much power who couldn't keep his dick in the right woman('s mouth) pissed me off. Clinton shares some of the blame for the fragmentation of the Democratic Party.

Out of the ashes should arise something new.

Probably it isn't popular to say this here, but Clinton was wrong for lying under oath. Compared to Chimp-in-Boots' many transgressions, though, it looks like nothing. From this side of the equation, I want Clinton back. Others in the center wouldn't, seeing Clinton's transgression as a fatal flaw. Gore inherited the Clinton's problem (seemingly scandalous presidency) and lost to a chimp. Clinton endorsing Clark? He'll just give Clark the same obstacle Gore failed to overcome. Clark will lose as much support as he gains.

This is just an opinion and a prediction. If I'm wrong, I really don't care. I'd rather see someone besides Clark get the nod, because my centrist views have shifted left since Chimpy got in office. I want to see some moving and shaking leftward. I want to see if socialized medicine is really evil. I want to see if helping the poor (me) is really evil. I'm tired of hanging out under my freeper family's table for scraps. I want my own goddam life.

Regardless, I will vote for Clark if he's nominated. Hell, I might even vote for Lieberman I'm so desperate.

[coralrf]

26. polls conducted on your subject..

are in direct conflict with what you wrote. You managed to get about 7 Anti-Clinton barbs in that 'comment' a rather transparent effort.

Probably it isn't popular to say this here, but Clinton was wrong for lying under oath.

followed by:

Compared to Chimp-in-Boots' many transgressions,.....

Note the pattern: enunciate in detail the Clinton transgressions but generalize and fail to mention specifics when dissing Bush. Either your intentions are to do so or you have fallen victim to the media barrage that wants you do just what you did.

Think. Read. Ask yourself questions.

Was Clinton right about anything? The economy? International cooperation? The environment? Would it be possible to give a little consideration of what the man did for this country and just a little les to Whitewater..Filegate or whatever? It won’t hurt you.

[molly]

7. Maybe Dean's dropping out?

:evilgrin:

[Jerseycoa]

16. Now

THAT might work. :evilgrin:

[Gloria]

5. I'm back at HQ on the 20th (Sat) for a coffee and donuts event....

at 10 AM. Will be interesting...

[bicentennial_baby]

8. Indeed!

Lucky you! I'm going up to NH to volunteer once finals are over...I'm excited!

[slinkerwink]

6. if clinton is going to endorse clark

then there's going to be a really BIG rift in the party, and a lot of angry people on both sides.

[Myra]

14. Phew, it really would be big. Not that it should stop Clinton if he thinks

A certain candidate is best, but it would really
draw a line to have our two most recently elected presidents
endorsing different candidates.

All speculation at this point anyway.

[dave29]

9. Lets just hope whatever it is

it isn't undemocratic, or seen as forcing us to vote for Clark.

[bicentennial_baby]

10. What does that mean?

Undemocratic? Forcing?

[Jerseycoa]

15. Oh, now

That horse has left the barn.

But I don't think Clinton is endorsing. I don't know what this is all about, but I doubt that's it. Whatever it is will be a gigantic letdown with all of this hint hint torture. :spank:

[jpgpenn]

22. do you mean like...

what the tagged team duo of major media and GOP are now doing to unsuspecting Americans. Forcing Dean on everyone while blatantly ignoring all other candidates. The repubs also has been condributing to Dean's campaign since back in March.

Is this undemocratic for you? If so what are you doing to let others know about it? If not, why the heck not?

[wndycty]

11. Well I have been contacted by the campaign and asked. . .

. . .to arrange for the press to assemble along the shores of Lake Michigan as he walks on water! Of course when this happens there will be those who criticize him and will say that he is walking on water because he does not know how to swim.


LOL I have no idea, and we will kill ourselves with the speculation.

[mikehiggins]

13. Now THAT is just silly.

Of course Clark knows how to swim. It's flying through the air that he is having some problems with. ;^)

I doubt Clark could have known about it in advance but CBS News reported that Gov. Kean of the 9/11 Commission announced that the attack could and SHOULD have been prevented. There's a thread on it on LBN. If that report is true then all the "big" events in the world don't mean a thing.

If Gov. Kean hangs 9/11 around Bush's neck the Chimp-in-chief is done. If the American people come to beleive that charge then the Democratic candidate, to abuse an old political truism, could win it even IF they found him in bed with a dead woman, a live boy, and Shamu the killer whale.

What a damning charge.

[petrock2004]

31. here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=932687

and the story:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/17/eveningnews/main589137.shtml

[Kahuna]

34. "flying, Mike?" Surely you jest. Of course Wesley Clark Kent can fly..

:7

[fob]

17. That's not really a tough feat at this time of year is it?

nt

[economic justice]

18. I thought...

I thought you were a Clark supporter. No? Weren't you posting a lot and involved in the draft movement? I was just lurking around at that time, but I could have sworn. Maybe I have you confused...if so, sorry. :)

[wndycty]

21. I am a very big Clark supporter. . .

. . .with an even larger SENSE OF HUMOR!!!! I am still very involved in the grassroots movement. . .I just have a SENSE OF HUMOR!

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

23. Strange coicidence. I actually had a dream last night

that I was walking on water with some man I didn't know. It's just very strange to read your post about the same thing! Wonder what a dream like that means? It was a very fun dream anyway.

Also strange because I was talking on the phone to my husband's uncle yesterday who mentioned he skated all over Lake Michigan when he was growing up, which must have prompted the dream.

[Kahuna]

35. Damnit! This is spooky, I had a walking on water dream too.

:scared:

[KaraokeKarlton]

12. Have you read my signature line?

if not, you should!

[newsguyatl]

24. i LOVE it!

now THAT is a sigline...

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. 6 years ago? Hahaha!

A LOT has changed in 6 years. :eyes:

[KaraokeKarlton]

30. Really?

Apparently you missed Bill Clinton's comments about Dean right after the DLC memo and at Harkin's Steak Fry.

If Clinton didn't like Dean why would he choose Dean as an advisor on Health Care reform? Why did Dean get to sit right by Hillary during the state of the union address?

Clinton won't be endorsing anyone. He already made a promise to the public and he won't go back on that. Gore announced he would be making an endorsement before the nominee was chosen, and he stuck to his word. Bill Clinton will as well.

[msanger]

20. great that you are working for the campaign

I'm a deanie myself, but am really ABBB. I figure the more folks we have working on the ground for their candidates, teh more we will have once a nominee is choosen.

Hey - should we think of ourselves as fraternities or sororities -- all going to the same college, but just "into" different things. But when it comes time to play the "other school" we drop our differences and focus on the "real" opponent.

Just a thought.

[Spazito]

25. I wonder if this is about the new ad that is coming out?

I read that 3 of the candidates are coming out with new ads. It will be interesting to see all three and what issues they will be focusing on.

[bicentennial_baby]

27. Word on the Blog: Nothing happening

"Quelling a rumor
By leonardr
Posted to Official Campaign Blog on Wed Dec 17th, 2003 at 07:45:25 PM EST

There's a rumor going around that we have some huge announcement planned for Saturday. I've confirmed from multiple sources in the campaign that we have no such announcement planned. We're campaigning in New Hampshire, we're going to start running a new commercial, and the volunteers will be working all over the country as usual. We make news every day. There's nothing particularly special about Saturday.
Please don't spread this rumor around--it hurts the credibility of the campaign when we do have big announcements."

http://campaign.forclark.com/story/2003/12/17/194525/41

[slinkerwink]

28. so there's nothing big planned for this saturday?

[littlejoe]

32. I don't know how you can get excited

about campaigning for a man who voted for two republican presidents, who happens to be a career military man, who has disturbing ties to the military industrial complex. Personally, I have had enough of wars and generals.

[Kahuna]

33. Gloria! Gloria! Gloria!

:yourock:

:7

[shivaji]

36. The key voting block in 2004 will be African-Americans

Does anyone really think the coming election can be won without ENERGIZING the base? Gore beat Bush* by half a million votes mainly due to the 90%+ votes from blacks. And GORE ENDORSED DEAN. Repug lites such as Kerry, Clark, Gephardt and Edwards can never bring the black voters in droves to the polls.