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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:17 PM
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Slobodan vs. Saddam
If nominated as our candidate, could Wesley Clark neutralize, politically, Bush's capture of Hussein with his own capture of Milosevic?

Do we even have any legitimate choices left, other than Clark? We have to counter Saddam's capture somehow. It almost seems as if the Clintons saw this week coming months ago.

What do you all think?
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:30 PM
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1. oh please, the West is so misinformed about Milosevic...
oh no, Serbia was deporting illegal Albanian immigrants who had ties to Al Qaeda and represented the largest organized crime in Eastern Europe (in terms of importation of narcotics)...

Two reasons for Kosovo...

1. Russia was supplying Serbia... it was an opprotunity to spite Russia

2. to take attention away from Monicagate. (I like Clinton, but sorry, it's true)

Clark won't want to try and trump up his "crusade" against Slobo... not one shred of physical evidence has been presented in the case against him at the Hague.

Yes, Milosevic was a hardliner nationalist... yes, there were isolated cases of rogue generals commiting war crimes... but Slobo was not this genocidal dictator that Western Media made him out to be. There was no genocide... and the term "ethnic cleansing" was substituted for deporting illegal immigrants. It's funny... the UN concluded, after a large investigation, that there were no mass graves that held more than 7 bodies.

As my grandfather said, "If the death counts in Kosovo were accurate, there'd be nobody left there."

The demonization of the Serbs was really insulting. We survived the Nazi occupation (where the Croats, Bosnians, and Albanians collaborated with the Nazis).... we survived the Communists after Britain and the US sold Yugoslavia out to Stalin (once again, Croatia, Bosnians, and Albanians collaborating with the Soviets)... only to be accused of genocide.

It's really a shame. I invite the DU to read the following:
Balkan Tragedy: Chaos and Dissoluton After the Cold War
by Susan L. Woodward

Black Lamb and Grey Falcon : A Journey Through Yugoslavia
by Rebecca West

The Fall of Yugoslavia : The Third Balkan War
by Misha Glenny

I still like Clark though... despite his involvement in Kosovo, he is a good man and will make a great president. :D
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:34 PM
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2. Are you from Serbia?
I was born in Belgrade, and lived there until I was 17 (1992).
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:40 PM
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3. nah, I was born in America, but lived with family in Kosovo in 1997...
I also visited relatives in Kragujevic... My grandfather was one of a few to survive the massacre of 500 during WW2 by the Nazis.

It was a real shame that NATO bombed the beer factory. :) The biggest WAR CRIME!! ;)
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