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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:42 PM
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Democrats are wasting time
Wesley Clark had some pointed comments recently about his rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination. As reported by the Associated Press, the former general said, "They're just carving each other up," and he added, "I've never seen anything more effective than when they go at each other about who did what 10 or 15 years ago." Indeed, they do slash and stab at one another, and this fratricide seems to intensify as the voting comes closer.

Most of the attacks are focused on front-runner Howard Dean. At a meeting in Detroit of African-American ministers, an audience where he might do the most damage, Richard Gephardt accused Dean, Joe Lieberman and John Kerry of making comments critical of affirmative action during the 1990s.

Gephardt and Kerry also savaged Dean for remarks made and actions taken 10 years ago, while he was governor of Vermont. In their recent Des Moines debate, Kerry actually baited the former governor, asking repeatedly if Dean would try to slow the growth of Medicare, as he proposed some years ago.

Clark himself has not escaped unmarked in this alley fight. He has been attacked by most of the other candidates for comments made praising Bush and Co. for the prosecution of the war in Iraq, and about when and why he became a Democrat.

more: http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~29003~1824938,00.html
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:44 PM
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1. i agree...
...i wish they'd spend all that time and energy carving up Bu$hit instead of each other..they're losing sight of the objective, which is getting Duhhhyba out of the white house in 2005. they need to get their priorities in order.
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Charlls Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:49 PM
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2. the only reason why stupid people right know governs
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 02:49 PM by Charlls
is because even more stupid people that was supposed to hold opposition to that, actually helped them

you wonder why nothing has changed?
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:17 PM
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3. Which base? What base?
"So the issue is: Do the Democrats maintain the Clinton focus on middle-class voters or go back to the farmer-labor-oriented policies of FDR and Truman? Whatever path the party chooses, its hopes for next November are definitely diminished unless its primary candidates sheath those carving knives of which Clark warned."

I know I went from being an Old Democrat to a New Democrat, that much is clear. Howard Dean is supposed to be appealing to the "base" of the Democratic Party, yet he doesn't appeal to me. He is said to be bringing the Democratic "base" back into the political process.

My question is which "base" is the Dean campaign appealing to? I've puzzled over this a while now and it still confuses me. I would appreciate a definition and explanation of the various "bases."

Is there a common understanding of what constitutes the "base" of the Party? If yes, please elaborate. Or should this be a separate thread?


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