Florida Democratic Party Meeting .....thread 3

[Moderator]

Prior discussion

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=837536


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[creativelcro]

1. hey all

[slinkerwink]

2. hey all!

;-)

[janx]

4. Is each candidate given half an hour or something?

Does anyone know what the time limit is? It seems to be a large amount of time for each. There's nothing wrong with that; I was just wondering.

[slinkerwink]

7. but Kerry took the longest time in my opinion

[Khephra]

9. Each candidate gets a speech and a Q&A

Or at least that's how I think it's supposed to work. This event is two days, so some of the speeches/Q&As will be tomorrow. I could be wrong though.

[janx]

12. Thanks. I haven't seen much Q&A action yet.

I'll keep watching.

[LiberalTexan]

10. Last year it was an hour

But, they aren't going to stop a candidate when they go over. They just appeal that the candidates respect the other candidates who showed up at a certain time to speak (because some of them leave after their speeches).

[janx]

That makes sense. At this time in the primary process,

they all have places to go.

[creativelcro]

3. Looong intro, Wes...

:)

[Khephra]

5. Norm!

:evilgrin:

[Moderator]

6. Thread consolidation ("Offical Clark C-Span discussion")

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=838721

[unfrigginreal]

8. When does the headliner come on?

n/t

[slinkerwink]

11. right when Clark finishes

and then Dean's going to sweep the house!!!! ;-)

[Renew Deal]

19. 2 standing O's for Clark. Lets see,

[creativelcro]

13. Oh Man! Military and religion... I don't think SO!!!

[slinkerwink]

14. omg, Clark just held the flag.....

[drfemoe]

28. Clark said

repeal tax cuts for those making over $200,000 a year.. how um. generous?

[OKNancy]

31. Most voters like that sort of thing you know.

n/t

[Kahuna]

15. Musical threads!

nt

[KaraokeKarlton]

16. Clark has a lot of good things to say, however...

He's starting to get a little redundant and is repeating himself. He should wrap things up soon because he's starting to ramble and jump all over the place without really making any compelling points. If he could formulate what he has to say in a more concise manner I think he might be doing better than he is.

[Field Of Dreams]

25. I think he's doing great!

n/t

[KaraokeKarlton]

50. Good, but I wouldn't say great

A great speech is one that's message is so clear and concise that it's main points stay with you long after the speech is over. I have been listening to the speech, which I know had many good points, but I'm not left with anything that really stands out and stays with me. He needs to work on the focus of what he says and tie it all together in a way that works better. This is constructive criticism on what he needs to do to hone his message, which is a good one. It's just not as well formed and articulated as it could be.

[xultar]

35. That is how you give a speech...you want to make sure your point

gets across!

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. The FLAG again!!!!

I love this! GO CLARK!!!!!!!

[LiberalTexan]

23. I was impressed, too

but isn't he against flag burning? That sends me mixed signals.

[Renew Deal]

30. No mixed signal

He said he would protect the flag. Then again, he can't vote on the issue.

[xultar]

18. OK what's with all the thread shifting moving around!!! n/t

YEAH HOO take the FLAG back from those THUGS!!!

[WhosNext]

20. Clark holding flag. good pose there.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. ANOTHER STANDING OVATION!!!! n/t

[Moderator]

22. Consolidation ("Edwards and Kerry up next on C-SPAN live! 12:55 pm.")

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=837508

[WillyBrandt]

24. OK, Clark wrap it up

Great speech but end on a high note...

[Renew Deal]

26. I think it's coming.

He is good at this.

[impeach the gop]

68. Is the Love of my life Dennis Kucinnich there too?

Did I miss him? I just caught tail end of Clark. He sounded like a proud Democrat. That makes me proud when they aren't afraid to show balls and passion. Hope the childish boyhood in fighting some of our beloved party have been wasting precious time and my patience with get the messege pretty soon.

Did I miss my Dennis?

[Khephra]

Nope...he's not been on yet

[LiberalTexan]

EEEeeeee......

I have to agree. I think he's making some important points, but I hate to see it drag. I hope-- I really hope-- he ends on a high note.

[xultar]

27. HE LOOKS SO MOVED!!! I LOVE CLARK!!! n/t

[slinkerwink]

29. he was just rambling all over the place

needs a much tighter delivery, and that flag-grabbing thing made me cringe---too amateurish.

[Gloria]

49. Idon't agree--he said he's seen soldiers buried under it.....the man

speaks from the heart--he DID fight for it...as a soldier in VietNam and for 30 years....not like AWOL!

IT"S CLARK"S FLAG, NOT BUSH"s!!!!!!

[creativelcro]

Yeah, military, flag and religion....

It's the same thing I've seen all along...

[Cheswick2.0]

88. maybe we should talk about the pic of Dean looking like a maniac

?

[Gloria]

32. CLark holding the flag! ANd then saying that it means more than

just a symbol, it represents our right to dissent!!

Beautiful moment!! BUsh, DeLay, Ashcroft....right in their faces!

Jeez, I've got tears in my eyes...

You don't have to wait for the ship of state to capsize before you get a new leader!

Ends with FLORIDA 2000,,,,WHAT WENT SO WRONG THREE YEARS AGO!!!!

[janx]

42. I've seen Dean do that before too. "This flag doesn't belong

to Jerry Falwell, Rush Limbaugh, ...it belongs to the American people..."

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. I mean what I say.

I will never send our soldiers to war inless we have exhausted all other means. I BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE SAYS THAT! I BELIEVE EVERY word this man says!

Ouch! another jab at the shrub about his August vacations. :7

[Kahuna]

36. Eyes got misty at the end again.

nt

[slinkerwink]

43. woooooohooooo@@@@!!!!!!!!!

Dean is coming up NEXT! Go, Dean! :yourock:

[drfemoe]

69. I really kinda wish

Clark had stayed out of this.
One positive is having a General speak (some of) the truth about *u*h .
.. but overall . he's a distraction for the party.

[Selwynn]

34. CLARK IS DOING GREAT!!

Man, I believe this guy means what he says when he says it.

He's speech started of a little rough, imo - but it has built up momentum to the place where I was deeply moved sitting here on my couch in idaho.

[SadEagle]

61. Completely agree.

I didn't see it from the very start, but at the point I started watching --- when he was talking about his militrary career, I felt it was a bit too emotionless, but then as he moved on he really picked up and became quite powerful, IMHO. Overall a great speech

[xultar]

37. Is that our song CLARKIES?? I love it!!! n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

38. U2!!!!! I LOVE THAT SONG!!!!!

I LOVE the General! He was awesome!!!! :bounce:

[Renew Deal]

44. That's a perfect campaign song.

Beautiful day by U2.

[LiberalTexan]

45. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY

TO BE A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

58. EXACTLY!

That is a PERFECT theme song!

[LiberalTexan]

GOOD END WITH U2

That's what Al Gore came in with last year. U2 is a great symbol. Upbeat music for an upbeat exit. GOOD PICK. Sets a tone.

[Field Of Dreams]

39. General Clark...

So Damn Awesome!

[WhosNext]

40. Clark is the guy we need.

Too bad he probably can't beat Dean, because Clark could really take it to Bush.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. He's Using U2 Theme Music....

He rocks....

I'll beat Bush would use something lame like Abba......

[WhosNext]

81. bwahahahaha

[in_cog_ni_to]

48. He CAN beat Dean!

"I" use to be a Dean supporter. :7

[Renew Deal]

51. Sure he can beat him.

Every time he speaks people go to him. He is positive, skilled and charismatic.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

53. Fortunately, you're wrong.

Of course he can beat Dean, and watch, he will.

[WhosNext]

56. I hope I am wrong.

[moz4prez]

41. nevermind

text

[xultar]

55. YEAH HOOO Clarkies!!! I love you!!! See you at the Inaugural ball

Yeahhhh HOOOOO!!!!!!

[OKNancy]

46. Okay Clark is finished and he was wonderful

and powerful. Now I'm going to watch football.

[unfrigginreal]

74. LOL

I don't blame you, I just tuned in to CSPAN about 5 minutes ago.

[Terwilliger]

52. Having watched both Kerry's and Clark's speeches...

I must say that Clark is a LOT more interesting and inspiring.

[Khephra]

71. And I'll add that my mother didn't cuss at the tv

when Clark was on, unlike she did during Kerry's speech.

:evilgrin:

[Terwilliger]

90. hey, there it is...right there

no better endorsement :-) let's see what happens with Dean

[LiberalTexan]

54. You are about to see the room explode

look for people standing on their chairs.

I love Florida Dems!

[Khephra]

57. Bush must go!

INDEED!

[creativelcro]

64. Wow, I saw one Gephardt sign...

[slinkerwink]

65. ditto here!

[LiberalTexan]

59. BUSH MUST GO

We shall come together!!!

[Kosmos Mariner]

60. Good Job General!

Wes is going to be a big hit in Florida. I love the U2 song, good campaign song! Wes will win!! Bush must go!

:dem:

[Gloria]

62. Clark has the vision thing.... his sincerity just oozes from his every

pore. He casts a very wide net and ties it altogether very well.

It's a message that is uplifting, goes to a deeper sense than just politics of bills, laws, etc. He uplifts as well as he goes after Bush and the cabal!

I love the man!

[meow mix]

77. me too!

omg that was great speech. i love him!!
well.. his opening funny kinda went splat.. but he made up for it, excessivly too.

[kentuck]

63. Even the most rabid Dean fans must appreciate what Clark said....

if they are honest Democrats...

[slinkerwink]

70. he did a really great job on foreign policy and attacking bush

that was good.

[unfrigginreal]

93. I just tuned in to the end

I did appreciate what I heard him saying as I do with all of the candidates. Clark just doesn't move me though like I originally thought he would. It's like all of the above posts about misty eyes and how good he makes them feel, it's not there for me. I bet that the big grin and hopeful feelings that I get when I see Dean doesn't happen for them either.

[xultar]

66. WES WILL WIN...GO DEAN GO...BUSH MUST GO!!!!

[creativelcro]

no questions for Clark???

[Khephra]

76. They do the Q&A sessions separately

.

[LiberalTexan]

67. Are they at the Marriott again this year?

Just wondering....

[annxburns]

79. I'm still on the fence with picking a favorite candidate...

... but I have to say, I am so proud of all of them. I watched Kerry, Edwards earlier and thought they were great. And Clarkies, MAN has Clark improved! I saw one of his first speeches and that dude has a very steep learning curve. Good for him, great job.

[drfemoe]

72. Woo HOOOOOOO let's GO Dean!

.. that whistle lady is still at it .

Question: Is Lieberman there? He doesn't usually do Saturday activities .. just wondering.

[creativelcro]

73. GOOO DEAAANNNN!

[Renew Deal]

75. The whistle is making this unwatchable.

[xultar]

85. I was just thinkin that...maybe they will make a mistake and swallow it!

[creativelcro]

86. what whistle ?

[drfemoe]

92. The Crowd's CHEERS

are louder than the whistle !!!

[Khephra]

87. He's on tomorrow

It's a two day event.

[in_cog_ni_to]

78. Dr. Clean up man, Howard Dean.

Funny! :)

[LiberalTexan]

80. Corrine Brown introducing Dean

She is calling him "the clean up man"....

Dean put some faith in her by having her introduce him. Sometimes she gets off topic or doesn't make much sense. I love her policies, but her delivery is a little .....unconventional.

Dean entering to "I'm walking on Sunshine".

UPBEAT

[WillyBrandt]

82. What did that white sign say?

It said:

"Clark 4 Stars
Bush <couldn't see it>"

What was it?

[slinkerwink]

83. DEAN!!!!

Go people-powered Howard!

[fairfaxvadem]

84. this has been absolutely fascinating to watch...

I should be studying, but i'm afraid my family and my politics come before school. I like Kerry, I like Edwards, I like Clark. I just can't get a feeling for Dr. Dean, but I don't dislike the guy. I am very ambivalent about him. Hmmm....

But I'm glad this is going on today. It's a great way to see the candidates without it being a phoney baloney debate w/Tom Brokaw who hates Democrats anyway.

Florida better come through for the Dems next November, though.

[creativelcro]

91. C-span connection slowing down... Too much traffic!!

[creativelcro]

95. Graham, his VP

[Kathleen04]

104. "Bob Graham, you have served your country well..

and we hope you're going to serve your country again."

That sounded like a possible VP hint to me..

[SeveneightyWhoa]

89. Man, Clark was fantastic.

If only they showed this kind of stuff on primetime TV and not just to people who already love these guys anyway..

[in_cog_ni_to]

102. I know!

BUT, the RW media will NEVER promote Clark if they don't HAVE to. If he comes in second in NH and 1st or 2nd in Florida and SC...they won't be able to ignore him anymore!

[SeveneightyWhoa]

106. Oh they'll still ignore it.

"Next up, Dean comes in 1st in Florida!"...then ten minutes of Dean-bashing. "And what about John Kerry? He came in third! Lieberman fourth! This has been MediaWhore News, thanks for watching!".

[LiberalTexan]

94. Lots of Dean supporters.....

kinda hard not to notice. :)

I like seeing Dean in Florida. He came to Texas last year to the Texas Democratic Conference when very few people did.....

Thanking Bob Graham.....nice BIG SMILE. Dean's having fun.

[Renew Deal]

101. Dean got a haircut.

[Kathleen04]

108. lol..I just said that to myself out loud.. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

96. Was that a "hint*hint"

at the VP spot????

[ErasureAcer]

97. when did/does kucinich speak?

thanks

[Khephra]

98. THREAD 4

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=839309

[Snellius]

99. Dean's already giving his victory speech

and he hasn't even started yet.

[LiberalTexan]

100. He's thanking UNION WORKERS

first. YES!

[Renew Deal]

103. Angry Dean is here today.

yelling and pointing.

[slinkerwink]

107. hey, wasn't Angry Clark doing that also?

[Renew Deal]

109. No, and you are avoiding the issue once again.

[Selwynn]

113. Yeah, I was once again instantly turned off - but I'm trying to listen

[Gloria]

105. I just realized that Dean reminds me of "BUD" on JAG....

but louder.

The no jacket thing...yeah, street fighter, OK, I get it.

[Selwynn]

110. Is dean the only one to bash the other candidates today?

[Renew Deal]

122. I believe so.

Angry Dean goes negative.

[Field Of Dreams]

111. Gee, thanks for slamming Clark, Howard

[WillyBrandt]

112. What did he say?

[Renew Deal]

114. The Katrina Swett BS.

Dean is the only one so far to go after another candidate.

[Field Of Dreams]

116. Lumped him in with Dems that supported IWR...

"and even General Clark ... blah ... blah ... blah"

[WillyBrandt]

120. Ugh. More GOP bullshit

[slinkerwink]

115. so?

Didn't Clark slam Kerry, another war veteran?

[Selwynn]

117. um.. no?

[WillyBrandt]

118. Today?

[Marines for Clark]

119. again trashing Kerry,Edwards,Gept and Clark. about the war stance

He doesn't one speech without trashing his opponents. Have we seen Kerry and Clark blast Dean ?

[Selwynn]

121. Yeah - I didn't think that was cool :(

[Field Of Dreams]

126. Called Clark out by name...

very uncool.

[unfrigginreal]

123. I guess you missed Kerry and Clark today saying how we needed

a military guy to run against Bush. Who do you think that was meant to belittle?

[WillyBrandt]

124. There's a diff between calling yourself the best

and greatest and pointing out an slamming another opponent. One is classier than another.

(Go into a bar and say "I have the most beautiful girlfriend of anyone in the bar." Notice how the reaction differs when you say "All of your girlfriends look like men.")

[Woodstock]

125. DEAN ROCKS!!!

:)