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Marines for Clark Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:59 AM
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President Bush Bans Press Coverage Of Wesley Clark'sTestimony
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 10:12 AM by Marines for Clark
There is no level President Bush won't sink to to squelch his opposition. He is now completely a Dictator who destroys all tradition and batters all truth for no reason other than to protect his own political future.

In this latest example, President Bush has ordered an unprecedented media blackout for Democratic Presidential hopeful General Wesley Clark's testimony in the Hague against Slobodan Milosovec. As the Oklahoma Daily reports:"The Bush administration has imposed heavy secrecy and censorship measures on the testimony of retired Gen. Wesley Clark, the former NATO commander seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, when he takes the stand later this month at the war crimes trial of Slobodan Milosevic.The administration's action will blunt the drama of what many expected to be crucial moment in Milosevic's lengthy trial and perhaps one of the defining moments in the presidential campaign of Clark, who defeated the Yugoslav leader in the Kosovo campaign.

At the insistence of State Department's legal office, the courtroom's public gallery will be cleared when Clark is called to testify Dec. 15 and 16 in The Hague. Cameras that normally broadcast the proceedings on closed circuit television and the Internet will be blacked out."Even when other Generals or high level officials like former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright testified at the Hague, this was not done. If a subject comes up that might be sensitive, then that portion is done in private, reports the OK Daily. But it is important to have all proceedings done in open so the world doesn't suspect and Milosovec can't claim anything shady went on while in private.But Bush doesn't care. He doesn't want General Clark getting the positive media coverage showing him bringing down first hand one of the worst tyrants and war criminals in recent history.

Of course, there's even more. Not only has the President ordered a complete media blackout, but - just in case you doubted he was doing this to stop Clark from getting good coverage - he has ordered, "a 48-hour delay on the release of the trial transcript that will enable State Department lawyers to examine Clark's testimony and request the deletion of portions that they deem harmful to national interests." Yes, they want a delay that is long enough that the press will lose interest before it gets the transcript and, in typical Dictator Bush style, complete censorship editorial control over what gets released at all.Again, remember, this never has happened before. As the OK Daily reports, "for a high profile public figure, the secrecy surrounding Clark's testimony is unprecedented, especially in light of the fact that Clark has written a lengthy book and numerous articles on NATO and the Kosovo war, and has freely given his opinion on these subjects as a TV commentator and presidential candidate."

The Daily reports that the normal procedure is: "When high-ranking officials are called as witnesses, the normal procedure for dealing with sensitive testimony is to allow representatives of their government to be present in the courtroom and to intervene if they believe the official's testimony might harm national interests. The tribunal then goes into a temporary closed session to deal with that portion of the testimony.

"Closed sessions are for victims who might be harmed, not governments who might be embarrassed," said a tribunal source."For German General Klaus Naumann, for British envoys Paddy Ashdown and David Owen, and for former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, testifying in public was just fine.They weren't running for President against the first American Dictator.With Milosovec acting as his own lawyer, the direct confrontation with General Clark - the man who led the call and commanded the troops to bring Milosovec down - should be fireworks like nothing seen before; a true, great, exciting moment in the world's history and the history of decency and democracy triumphing over brutality and tyranny.

But don't bother trying to find out about it on the news. They won't know anything that went on, not for at least 48 hours, and only what the Bush administration decides to let out then.Democratic candidates take note: stop worrying about what your message should be or what snappy phrases might work best, stop dreaming of that moment up on stage during a debate going toe to toe with President Bush, and start to realize, the President and his people will come up with method after method of ensuring your message never gets heard. Last election they timed the war to ensure there was no media space to cover election pitches, they are squelching Clark, they censor the press when it covers President Bush already, forbidding interviews of soldiers even here in America (see story here.)

Be ready, Democratic hopefuls, and be ready America, a ruthless, free-speech hating, self-promoting at all costs and damage to freedom, democracy, and America dictator is out to silence you by any means necessary. He thinks the world is his Rush Limbaugh show and he gets to hang up on anyone who can show he is wrong. That is how he operates.The rest of the press is asleep on this, and even The Oklahoma Daily that did such a great job breaking this story couldn't just call it what it is: a power play by a merciless dictator of a President. They have to hint, infer, and not reach the obvious conclusion, allowing the President's game of sewing doubt to succeed.



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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:00 AM
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1. Please edit. . .
Bruh. . .this is a good post, but please limit it to a few paragraphs and provide a link. Thanks for posting this.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:09 AM
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9. This looks like it is something...
...that he wrote himself and it is losely based on what he read. I disagree. It does not need to be edited.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:45 AM
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21. If so I am wrong. . .
. . .and apologize.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:02 AM
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:08 AM
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7. General Clark held face to face meetings with Milosevic...
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 10:15 AM by Spazito
and can testify to what was said by Milosevic, Clark is very important to this case and I have little doubt he will bury Milosevic with his testimony.

Edited to correct spelling of Milosevic
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:15 AM
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13. Maybe if we were allowed to hear him, we'd be able to answer
your questions. That's the point! Duh. Do you actually think he staged this trial as a publicity stunt? If you're looking for a shllow publicity stunt, review the tape of the staged turkey dinner in Iraq.

Get back to working on the Bush re-election campaign but don't do it here.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:05 AM
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3. Maybe "war crimes" will be revealed.....
Think that maybe the reason?

How about laying politics aside and looking at that maybe Bush and Clark are really all part of the same monster.

U.S. refused to sign the ICC or I think Bush "unsigned" it. What are they afraid of? Justice is a good thing for everyone but the U.S.?

The U.S. commits war crimes and doesn't want to be held accountable. Period.
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Marines for Clark Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:07 AM
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5. I see it differently
The US government's censorship of former Supreme Allied Commander General Wesley Clark's testimony at the Hague is a disgrace. It simply makes clear the Bush administration's terror of Clark's presidential candidacy. In its obvious effort to deprive General Clark of press coverage, the Bush White House is also depriving the US public of its right to follow this historic trial. I protest this suppression of information, and this administration's continuing assault on Americans' constitutionally protected right to a free and unfettered press.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:11 AM
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10. You expected something different from them?
They're masters of propaganda. Rightwing radio 24/7. A conservative, conciliatory mainstream press, and lip service to the Constitution all the while shredding it to pieces.

They're masters and the people are stupid. A lethal combination to democracy.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:18 AM
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16. Your take makes no sense
the repubs would like any info that would put the Clinton admin and Clark in a negative light.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:22 AM
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17. 'Tis a disgrace, and junior is afraid of Clark.
junior should be more afraid of Dean, cuz Dean is gonna kick his Texan ass all over the state, where they'll soon be living.
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Marines for Clark Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:17 AM
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15. Bush needs to go now!!!!!!!
I don't care if you are a Dean, Kerry or Clark supporter we need to get this bastard out of office before he takes our freedom away soon!!!!!!!!
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:06 AM
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4. Clark is Key
And Bush knows it. Clark and Slobodan know each other very well, after years in negotiations. Bush is very afraid that Clark is going to come off like the statesman he is.

And Bush, by comparison, will look like the foreign relations disaster that HE is.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:07 AM
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6. Is Clark going to step up
and call this for the political move by * that it is? He needs to testify publicly so that people can see him and be able to judge him politically (and to basically tell * to piss off).
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:17 AM
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14. Well
Actually this could be good for Clark if he plays it right. He needs to call attention to it in the media. This actually could get him more coverage than if he just testified. All you would have seen in the news was 30 second spots, now Clark can make an issue about Bush trying to hide his testimony for political reasons.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:09 AM
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8. Must have missed the coverage
...on ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, FAUX.......

I'm sure a story of this importance is the top headline every 1/2 hour....,<sarcasm.>

You'd think that the press would be screaming at the top of their lungs about their restricted access, instead we're getting silence.

Will Pitt is right: Silence is the greatest sedition..........
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:12 AM
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11. I got the link
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 10:23 AM by xultar
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0312030248dec03,1,3563935.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Chicago Tribune!

OK I'm PISSED now. This has got to get coverage.

CLARKIES fall in line and email your asses off. We've got to get the media to wake up to this!

By Tom Hundley
Tribune foreign correspondent

December 3, 2003

LONDON -- The Bush administration has imposed heavy secrecy and censorship measures on the testimony of retired Gen. Wesley Clark,

--snip--
There also will be a 48-hour delay on the release of the trial transcript that will enable State Department lawyers to examine Clark's testimony and request the deletion!!!(WHAT)!!!of portions they deem harmful to national interests.

UN prosecutors expressed disappointment with the administration's
--snip--
The campaign emphasized that Clark had no qualms about testifying against Milosevic. UN prosecutors said they had little choice but to accept the arrangement if they wanted Clark's testimony.

--snip--
"Closed sessions are for victims who might be harmed, not governments who might be embarrassed," a tribunal source said.
terms, but Clark's campaign said he accepted them. (He's a good man shows no Political intent)

--snip (WHY IS THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION DOING THIS? THEY MUST BE STOPPED)

--snip--(THE BUSH ADMINISTATION IS FRIGHTENED OF CLARK)
Political observers had viewed Clark's trial testimony as an opportunity for him to boost his stature in a crowded Democratic field.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:13 AM
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12. email to whom?
The press has been complient to the admin lately.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:26 AM
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18. 2 tru...
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Marines for Clark Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:36 AM
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19. Its a disgrace
I am going to start writting now
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:43 AM
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20. I said this yesterday
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 10:52 AM by in_cog_ni_to
and I'll say it again...The General needs to make this public himself. When he's giving a speech, he should talk about it. When he's at the debate in New Hampshire, he needs to talk about it. Whenever he gives a TV interview, he needs to talk about it. THAT is the only way people will hear about it. He has to do it himself when he gets air time on cable. He should SCREAM about it. The perfect opportunity would have been his Town Hall meeting in NH and his follow up interview on C-SPAN. If his campaign manager is ever interviewed, HE should talk about it. The whole thing is in his hands now because the media surely isn't going to help him get the message out.
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HoosierClarkie Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:42 PM
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29. I saw parts of faux yesterday...
and they do not even mention Clarks name. The "experts" would mention the other candidates, but nothing about General Clark. I reeeeally think that his fight with the media is tougher than any other candidate. I think Clark supporters need to put in even longer hours in order to get his message out!
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 11:04 AM
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22. Nah, they're not scared of Clark.....
They're terrified.
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 11:10 AM
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23. The motives of bushco may go beyond Clark ... check this out
"Two explanations suggest themselves. One is more administration payback against Clark -- an effort to keep him out of the spotlight for political reasons. But a more likely and prosaic explanation is the administration's contempt for international law and legal institutions.

Administration officials demanded a similar level of censorship on possible testimony from Richard Holbrooke last year. And court officials, for now at least, decided not to call him at all.

So many bad motives to choose from, right? In this case, for them, it's probably a twofer."

Excerpt from http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com


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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:39 PM
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28. Could Also Be They Are Afraid That The General,...
through his testimony, will point out the fact that the ShrubCo. #1 administration sat on its' hands when the atrocity started because it was not a national security concern of the US. How will that square with ShrubCo. #2 having no problem changing the reason we invaded Iraq from WMD (national security) to (their word not mine) genocide. This is strictly an information management play.

Jay
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 11:16 AM
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24. Marines for Clark
Per DU copyright rules
please post only 4
paragraphs from the
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a link to the news source.


Here is the link:


http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/12/03/3fcd71b815e8e


Thanks you

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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:11 PM
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25. Clark should refuse to testify. Make them jump through incredible hoops
to compel his testimony, or offer to come if he is treated no differently than any other official.
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HoosierClarkie Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:34 PM
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27. That is a great plan...
but will the spin from the * administration be? Will he be called a media whore or something?
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:19 PM
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26. Marines for Clark???
Welcome aboard Amigo! Just what does your handle mean? Are you active??? Good to hear from ya, anyway! SEMPER FI
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:17 PM
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30. Uh..where does it say the president has the authority to order
A news blackout. Is this in the constitution someplace?
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