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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:43 AM
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Anybody listening to Tariq Ali vs. Hitchens on DemocracyNow?
Playing right now. Hitchens is such a basket case -- trying to spin it that everything is going "better than expected" with the occupation of Iraq. I wonder what happened to him to warp his mind so badly.

Tariq Ali is eloquent and scathing, as usual.

Take a listen, if you have a chance.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:46 AM
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1. Will it be archived on their website?
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:49 AM
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2. I don't see why not -- it's a regular program on WBAI right now.
n/t
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messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:50 AM
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3. Yes check
the site around 3PM.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:24 AM
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6. check here after noon
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:28 AM
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7. Will replay on KPFA at Noon eastern, 9am PST
www.kpfa.org

will be archived there also shortly after it plays
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:51 AM
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4. Hitch the Snitch
is a scumbag and a sellout to the darkside.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:22 AM
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5. shows years of alcohol abuse will do
he's pretty much a drunken bum now, working for his next drink.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:11 PM
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8. quite the smackdown going on here
:kick:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:15 PM
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9. Oooh boy! I can't wait to catch that on cable!
I adore Tariq Ali!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:16 PM
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10. you can also view it online
see my link above.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:22 PM
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11. Thank you!
You are a CatWoman and a Scholar!

:toast:
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:40 PM
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12. kick...great discussion
Hitchens is a complete Bush apologist...Ali cut him to ribbons
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:49 PM
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13. Hitch isn't a Bush apologist -- Hitch is all about Hitch
I came to realize that from reading his "Minority Report" columns in The Nation even before he switched to praising the neocons. But at least then, he was a little more palatable, and would say things a little more frequently that would make you take pause and think.

Now, he just ends up running in complete circles with such ferocity that he simply ends up where he started from, but completely out of breath. He's a self-promoter (and troublemaker) before all else, and I guess he figures that he can make the biggest name for himself from where he currently sits.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:53 PM
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14. like so much other punditry post 9/11
but what he said this morning agrees with EVERYTHING the Bush administration tries to foist on the public...positive Iraq situation, "so-called resistance fighters", I/P can only be successful with Bush re-elect, etc.

Maybe it's in his interests to be a Bush apologist, but that's the person I listened to.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:02 PM
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15. Hitchens is a whack job. I heard most of the discussion...
...and Ali sounded much, much, more reasonable and sane.

Hitchens was sounding very supportive of Bush as well as using the Repuke terms for the Iraqi combatants. Ali called him on it too.
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