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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 03:40 PM
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Anyone have info on Bush and the Koch brothers or Koch Industries?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 03:58 PM
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1. bump.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:00 PM
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2. Try pfaw.org
ISTR they have info
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:06 PM
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3. Stories
Koch Industries and the pollution of the Bush White House
http://www.mediawhoresonline.com/koch.htm

Kicked in the Koch
An oil pipeline company a bit too close to Slick Dubya for comfort faces indictment
http://www.american-politics.com

Another Oily Tie That Binds: Koch Industries
http://www.corpwatch.org/issues/PID.jsp?articleid=1789

Grand jury indicts major oil pipeline company
http://www.express-news.net/auth/ennews/ap/texas/d0759....

Environmentalists say contributions affect Bush's enforcement of regulations
http://www.express-news.net/auth/ennews/ap/texas/d0707....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:43 PM
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6. Wow...thankyou.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:44 PM
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8. interesting bastards I have heard
I remember reading about them in Stupid White Men. Big Bush campaign contributors whom he pardoned yet there wasnt press about it unlike Clinton and Marc Rich.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:10 PM
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4. did you notice that is who dupont just spun off a unit to
the oligarchs only deal with each other

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:44 PM
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7. No, I didn't. But the connex on Koch are starting to add up.
What happened with DuPont?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:32 PM
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5. 2nd largest private co.
largest privately owned oil company; $30 billion in annual revenues.

http://www.mediatransparency.org/funders/koch_family_fo...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:49 PM
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9. Here's an indictment on the boys from Koch
Edited on Wed Dec-03-03 04:59 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.usdoj.gov/enrd/kochsuperi.htm

and here's the settlement

Oil pipeline giant Koch Industries Inc. agreed Monday to pay $20 million in exchange for the federal government dropping all enviromental charges against the company.
http://www.amarillonet.com/stories/041001/tex_koch.shtm...


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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:50 PM
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10. No
but I'm waiting with baited breath to hear how they have Dean in their pocket. :eyes:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 08:09 PM
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12. Really? Do tell.
Would Dean be involved with characters like that?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 06:55 PM
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11. Two rich oiligarchs with family problems...
Sounds like the kind of people Bush could do business with. Any ties to Clint Murchison, perchance?

Forbes Faces: The Koch Brothers

Marcella Bernhard, 01.04.01, 11:57 AM ET

SILICON VALLEY - When the federal government drops 86 felony charges against your company, it should be cause for celebration. Not so for brothers Charles and David Koch, who run family oil conglomerate Koch Industries.

SNIP...

A federal grand jury indicted the privately held company and four of its employees in September on 97 related charges for alleged violations that took place at the company's refinery in Corpus Christi, Tex. Founded in 1940 by the late Fred Koch, father of Charles and David, Koch Industries faces up to $502 million in fines. Four former company executives face fines and possible prison terms.

It's just the latest in a string of mishaps for Charles, 64, the company's chairman, and David, 60, the executive vice president. In September 1999, Koch Industries paid $8 million in damages after a Minnesota oil spill. In January 2000, the company was slapped with the largest civil penalty ever against one company. It was forced to pay a $35 million settlement for 300 separate oil spills in six states, leaking 3 million gallons of crude oil from corroded pipelines into local waters.

Adding to all this is the backstabbing within the Koch family. Estranged brother William blew the whistle on the company for stealing oil from federal and American Indian lands in the 1970s; an Oklahoma jury found the company guilty last year and slapped it with a half million-dollar fine. Charles bought out William's shares in the company in 1983.

CONTINUED...

http://www.forbes.com/2001/01/04/0104faces.html
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 09:28 PM
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13. Greg Palast has quite a bit to say about them in his book
"The Best Democracy Money Can Buy".
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 10:56 PM
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14.  Interview with Greg about Koch -- Father founded the John Birch Society
Edited on Wed Dec-03-03 11:14 PM by seemslikeadream
by Rob Kall

The Koch brothers -- these are the guys who illegally funded the Republican takeover of congress. They financed and funded the "contract with America, " Newt Gingrich's plan.

What did they do that was illegal?

Well they pumped about $25 million dollars into the campaign for the Republican party. No-one's supposed to give more that $1000 to a campaign. They committed $25 million.

They went after McCain didn't they? (I was thinking of the attack ads that were used when McCain was running against Bush in the southern 2000 primaries.)

No. They elected McCain. They put him in over Dennis DiConcini of Arizona who was investigating the Koch brothers whowere stealing oil from the Indians off the Indians reservation -- maybe $100 million dollars(worth..) So they spent whatever money it would take to boot him, And they put in McCain in his place. But then McCain's gotten kind of out of line.

You talk about Bill Gates as the richest man in America, but I would bet that these Koch brothers are very close, but unlike Gates, Koch's industries is a private company, and we don't know how much they're worth. But I would bet they are close to or more than Gates.

They are the guys who funded some of the big think tanks,George Mason University, Citizens for a Sound Economy, Cato Institute, all these fronts which created the huge intellectual Right.

They're the number one funders of the right wing.

And by the way, their father founded the John Birch Society.

What's smart about the Kochs is they work their way through fronts.

http://www.opednews.com/kall_PalastInterview_.htm

And this guy says there are two Koch executives are a part of the elite DLC Board of Trustees!
www.dailyemerald.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/11/06/3fa...



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:23 AM
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15. AHA....I knew they had to be more involved than many are aware.
I do remeber now about the ads against McCain, just couldn't attach a name. So, they turned on one of their own previous candidates just to prop up Bush, eh?

The father founding the John Birch Society and the sons with the CATO Institute is just a perfect blend of Republican politics. Incredibly creepy.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:53 AM
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17. "They don't care for any loss of human life.
Like I said, it was the buck that counted for them," says Danny Smalley. He had the extreme misfortune of living near a Koch Industries underground pipeline that ran through Texas. In August, 1996, Smilley was home with his daughter Danielle and her friend Jason Stone. Danielle was packing to leave for school the next day-- the first person in her family to go to college.

She and Jason started smelling gas. It was butane, pouring from a corroded Koch Industries high pressure pipeline, 200 yards from their home. Jason and Danielle set out in a pickup truck to find help. But their truck set off the butane, and caused an explosion.

Danny Smalley filed suit against Koch Industries. His attorney, Ted Lyon, says the investigation exposed a pattern of negligence and coverup involving the pipeline known as Sterling One. Lyon describes the pipeline as like "Swiss Cheese."

Federal investigators blamed the explosion on Koch's failure to adequately protect the line. In 1999 a jury found Koch Industries guilty of negligence and malice.

"They said, 'We're sorry Mr.Smalley, that your child lost her life and Jason lost his life.'

In April, Koch's Petroleum Group was fined 20 million dollars after it released huge amounts of cancer-causing benzene from a Texas refinery and then tried to cover it up.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/11/27/60II/printabl...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:15 AM
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18. Maybe they'll take better care of these Alaska pipelines
Koch Industries subsidiaries purchase refinery, share in pipeline

Flint Hills Resources will buy a North Pole refinery, two petroleum terminals and inventories, and a new Koch company will buy a share of the Trans Alaska Pipeline System from Tulsa-based Williams.

Flint Hills Resources purchase of a 220,000 barrel-per-day NorthPole refinery, petroleum terminals in Anchorage and Fairbanks and crude oil and refined products inventories.

Creation of a new entity, Koch Alaska Pipeline Company LLC, which will buy Williams' 3 percent share in the Trans Alaska Pipeline System.

http://www.wichita.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2003...

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:27 AM
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16. the koch (pronounced "coke") brothers are the evilness behind bush & PNAC
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 10:39 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
not pronounced like Ed Koch mayor of NYC...but "coke" as in cola
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