High Tech Jobs Pour into India

[ringmastery]

Great article.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7373334.htm

[Woodstock]

1. Dean has been raising a fuss about this

The article is more about tech-related jobs, that is, jobs made possible offshore by technology (like call centers.) But it does give a mention to real high-tech jobs - like software engineering - and these are leaving in alarming numbers. The rich are getting richer, the rest of us are losing our jobs.

Howard Dean has been making a stink about the jobs leaving the US. The Democratic elite are telling him to knock it off. He isn't.

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20031215&s=greider

The governor has shown flashes of the same bluntness in his prime-time campaigning. Last summer, he told a revealing story on himself--a conversation with Robert Rubin, the former Treasury Secretary and Wall Street's main money guy for Democrats. Rubin had warned that unless Dean stopped attacking NAFTA and the multinationals for the migration of US jobs, he couldn't raise contributions for him from the financial sector. As Dean told it, "I said, 'Bob, tell me what your solution is.' He said, 'I'll have to get back to you.' I haven't heard from him." What I like so much about the story is that powerful, influential Bob Rubin pokes Dean in the chest, and he pokes him back. Then Dean discloses the exchange to the Washington Post.

[KittyWampus]

5. Paul Krugman Isn't Part of The Democratic Elite

and he is pretty much against Protectionism.

The answer regarding jobs isn't to force companies to keep jobs here by passing legislation to prohibit this... it's to create new jobs by investing in Science & Technology and also to increase spending through the states for things like Homeland Security and Infrastructure.

Jobs and Capital are not finite resources like land or gold.

Junior's failure to create jobs is what is making the outsourcing so painful. But that doesn't mean that new jobs can't be created.

[bpilgrim]

6. it is about making sure that we garuntee not only the rights of COMMERCE

but also the rights of PEOPLE and their ENVIRONMENT.

this will help middle classes develope around the world and cut down on the race to the bottom which we are definately experiancing which certainly must be 'FIXED'.

peace

[KittyWampus]

7. Raising Standards Is Agreed Upon By All The Candidates

[John_Shadows_1]

8. Paul Krugman is a fan of the financialized model...

.... he's pro-free-trade and doesn't like unions. I like the way he deconstructs Bush's bull***t, but I don't agree with his emphasis on Rubinomics.

American companies sure as hell should pay higher taxes if they move jobs offshore. We should rescind the corporate income tax cuts that Bush enacted, and instead implement investment tax credits, like Josephs Stiglitz advocated in "The Roaring Nineties".

[cornermouse]

2. Jobs in India

Actually, the following part of that article is simply not accurate.

"Few who pick up a phone in the United States and dial an 800 number for help ever know they're calling halfway around the world. Employees at 24/7 are told not to reveal their location; if asked, the refrain is: ``You're calling our global customer-service center."

The ones who I have talked to don't sound like us and they simply don't have the verbal command or the vocabulary that we have and you can use that little fact to confuse them very badly. And that's without using any four letter words. Also, they don't know the laws and either don't know or, possibly, don't care what our laws are in regard to what they can or cannot do. I believe the states will be filing some large lawsuits against Indian companies in the future, that is unless Bush gives them immunity for liability also.

[Deja Q]

3. Welcome to DU!

Excellent post.

I hope the states file lawsuits and that these companies go down big. To have a handful of giant conglomerates running everything... :puke: too much power. And control. And spread. They are the ones who wipe out the small businesses, butting those workers to the likes of Wal-mart or such, assuming they can pass those utterly-wrong 'personality profile' tests.

[cornermouse]

4. Thank you.

I'm thinking with the cash starved-state of our states, we can expect to see the State Attorney Generals become active whenever possible.

And you really can recognize and confuse their callers/representatives, you know. And if you talk to them, you'll realize they don't really have the command of the language that is being stated by the companies.

[newyawker99]

9. Hi cornermouse!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast: