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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:39 AM
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Do You Know The Basic Difference Between Democrats and Repubs?
Democrats bicker over every little detail in their elected and possibly going to be elected politicians' lives. We expect our leaders to be squeaky, rosey clean, live up to our nearly impossible ideal of oursevles, of the world as it should be, as we would like it to be. No one human can be all these things, no one, it is not possible. Under our collective cynical eyes, not one human is good enough. We want the world to be perfect, forgiving and giving, to those who would need it most, the poor, our troops, the tired, the hungry, the homeless, we have a need to give to those who need but we can not be all things. It is unfortunate! This has made us weak. The Republicans know it, that is why we SCRAMBLE to different issues, the Cheney energy papers, Blame scandel, school vouchers, energy bill, well, and the list goes on and on. It is impossible to united under one cause when we each have our own pet issue. They have designed it this way but no one gets it except the Republicans.
Now for the basic difference, it is obvious really, Democrats beat their representatives to death for lack of being that ideal figure and the Republicans just tend to overlook the shortcomings of their officials and accept that it is. Republicans will never criticize Reagan or Bush but Democrats will damn straight criticize the imperfections of Clinton or Carter until it bleeds the issue.
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DeathvadeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:42 AM
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1. I love he analogy Michael Moore uses in Dude WMC.
Democrats are like Pleather.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:45 AM
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2. Sorry I haven't read MM's book but if it's anything of which I speak
I suspect I'd like it.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:49 AM
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4. One problem we have is
We want the world to be perfect, forgiving and giving, to those who would need it most, the poor, our troops, the tired, the hungry, the homeless, we have a need to give to those who need but we can not be all things.

The poor, our troops, the tired, the hungry, the homeless, have no lobbyist to visit congressmen and offer campaign contributions or that they just might built a factory in their state if.........

capitalism can really suck.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:45 AM
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3. On the one hand there are those that expect purity and no compromise
On the other hand Dems pay MUCH closer attention to POLICY rather than soundbites and really cannot, therefore rely on memes to get their message across. Clinton was great in many ways but in many ways the POLICIES he promoted such as media deregulation have screwed, glued and tatooed us. How can one argue with that? We're dealing with the ill efects and unintended (hopefully) consequences of it now.

There is a Berkeley professor who is working on a think tank to help with the manner in which we frame our issues. Right now we appear to be being defined by the opposition...that is the biggect tragedy to me.

Here is an article that another Du'er forwarded to me. Very worth the read:

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:51 AM
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6. An article that I can agree with.
Language frames our debate. No doubt about it.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:52 AM
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7. But NSMA...
This is what I'm talking about, it's not that we don't have legitimate complaints but rather that we choose to air them. Do you think Repubs had legitimate complaints with Reagan or Papa Bush or the twit*? Of course, they have. They choose to focus their energy on attacking the Democrats instead of bickering over policy that is set into place. It's what makes us noble but weak, that's all I'm saying.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:06 AM
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10. Excellent article, thanks.
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MrSoundAndVision Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:50 AM
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5. Well I say
Who are the Democrats? Is it built upon the compromisors like Dick Gephardt or John Kerry or Wes Clark (oops he's no Democrat)? No it's our core principles: health care, education, democracy dammit!

Michael Moore needs to turn off his TV because the progressive movement is ...moving and he's not part of it. Join me and Dennis Kucinich dammit... The revolution will not be televised!

http://www.kucinich.us
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:04 AM
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9. Agreed.
Although most of the time Kerry and Gephardt vote well. I am sick of Dems who vote with republicans on critical issues. I am sick of Democrats appeasing the right. I am a Democrat because I believe in the traditional principles of the Democratic party. And one of those principles is: Thou shalt not kiss corporate a$$.






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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:53 AM
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8. John Ashcroft is the only difference I need.
Edited on Sun Nov-30-03 12:59 AM by Touchdown
Trust a former Missourian. All the Bushes, Delay, Lott, Frist, Cheney, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Santorum, Helms, Scalia, Thomas, etc...are all gravy reasons.

BTW: I saw your namesake in Frankfurt in 1985. The Cult was headlining. I bought their CD after they changed their name to Sisterhood. They were fun for awhile.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:12 AM
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11. I ...
love SoM. From MO myself and I can't stand the slithering Ashcroft.
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