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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:04 PM
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CNN ticker: new survey finds even more Americans think Islam is violent
Does anyone have a link to the results of this survey? This is interesting. I know of polls being conducted a month or so after 9/11 and then in the Spring of 2002 about whether or not Islam is violent. Each time the number of people that say Islam is violent INCREASES. If there is another terrorist attack the number will skyrocket. This portends a bleak future for American Muslims. IMO if moderate American Muslims want to avoid being isolated and persecuted they need to take control of American Muslim organizations, virtually all of which are run by fundies who are as anti-American as Al-Jazeerah(Don't believe me? Just read the ISNA or ICNA magazines. They look like they've been written straight from Al-Jazeerah headquarters)and SHOW America that they are not violent and don't hate America. If Muslims can march to protest things 10,000 miles away I don't see why they can't march to defend themselves. A march of thousands of Muslims in Washington, D.C. waving American flags would go a long way into preventing U.S. Muslims from becoming domestic pariahs.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:29 PM
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1. a reasonable conclusion given the absence of
contary evidence. which is not to say other religions are much if any better.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:29 PM
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2. Many Muslims have good reason to hate America: why pretend?
Nothing positive will happen for Palestine, Arab Countries,
or Muslim countries if Islam cowers under Bush like the Dems
have for the past two years. The Dems and the Muslims
should be in a lock-step outrage against Bush: Rage on my Muslim brother!
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:37 PM
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3. Arabs voted for Bush overwhelmingly in 2000
and they were one of the swing votes in Florida (which has a growing muslim population).

Their opposition to homosexuality and abortion make them likely allies of Repugs.

However, this coming election will be very different....
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:09 PM
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7. Most Arab-Americans are Christian
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:10 PM by _Jumper_
I don't think Christian Arab-Americans will based their vote in the name of the nebalous imperialist Islamic concept of "Ummuh." They may vote Democratic but that will be due to domestic reasons. Arab-Americans are a very affluent group and that combined with their social conservatism makes them likely Republicans.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:08 PM
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6. America First
All Americans should be Americans first. If Muslims follow the path of fundie Islam and act as Muslims first they will justifibly be criticized and ostracized. Most Muslims care most about domestic issues. The problem is with fundie Muslims who act like proxies of Yasser Arafat and co. and the fundies run virtually every Muslim organization in the USA.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:41 PM
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4. marching
I agree 100%, Jumper. That's something I've been preaching for a long time since 9/11.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:45 PM
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5. link
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:16 PM
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8. Thanks.
I'm an apostate Muslim but everyone else in my family is Muslim. I know many muslims and I've talked to them about the possibility of concentration camps being set up for Muslim-Americans. None thinks it can happen. This survey reveals that tolerance for Muslims is one terrorist attack away from becoming a minority opinion.

<Snip>Fully 44 percent of the American public now believes that Islam is more likely than other religions "to encourage violence among its believers." As recently as March 2002, just 25 percent expressed this view.<snip>

I have no problem with that. Look around the world and the conspicous fact is that Muslim fundies are more violent than other type of fundies.

<snip> "On the one hand, there's certainly an increase in the number of Americans who believe that Islam encourages violence. Yet at the same time, a narrow majority of the public continues to have favorable views of Muslim-Americans, and only 24 percent have an unfavorable view."<snip>

Only a narrow majority has a favorable view of Muslims right now. As we move further away from Bush's "Islam is a religion of peace" pronouncements this majority may likely become a minority.

<Snip>Nearly four-in-ten (38 percent) say they would not vote for a well-qualified Muslim for president<snip>

So the real number of people that have an unfavorable view of Muslims is nearly four-in-ten. Wow. And Muslim-Americans do absolutely nothing to reduce this. If anything they are just fanning the flames of this latent hatred.
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