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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:01 PM
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Went looking for Eloriel's thread on conspiracies and found these
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 10:56 PM by T Roosevelt
I was searching (the hard way) through the old DU forums for Eloriel's conspiracy thread (found it) and came across some other threads that shouldn't be forgotten, and I hope she resurrects here (these are kind of in reverse chronological order from their original posting):

Conspiracies: Self-interest, fear, inertia, values

REALITY 501: Course Syllabus Special Addendum - The 60s

The US, the Saudis, and oil (a piece of Eloriel's Big Picture)

Reality 501: Syllabus UPDATE

Reality 501: A DU Course Syllabus

One more time: LEO STRAUSS AND THE NEO-CONS

Reality 501: Course Syllabus


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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:24 PM
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1. Anyone new to DU ... these are MUST READS.
They're not really conspiracy threads. They're extensive research threads on the world we're facing now. Bookmark this thread and read the links, please!
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:55 PM
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2. I was just looking for that one thread
where she talks about how it doesn't take many people involved to pull off something large...
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 08:22 AM
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3. Self kick for the Thanksgiving morning crowd
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 08:29 AM
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4. Ignore
Edited on Thu Nov-27-03 08:30 AM by HFishbine
I shouldn't post without coffee.
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 05:29 PM
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5. KICK
:kick:
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 06:26 PM
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6. Kick -- these are must-reads, as Hedda_Foil said.
:kick:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 06:28 PM
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7. Woa ! Cool
I'll have to make some time to go back over these
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 04:50 PM
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8. One last kick.
:kick:
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:53 PM
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9. Thanks so much for posting the links
I lost track of them when the site was upgraded, and I'm really glad to have them back.

:)
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freeminder Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:21 PM
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10. thanks ! for the repost, in my bookmarks this goes !
I wasn't around on the old board, but there are some chilling reads in these threads...

So were those the good old days ? :-)
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:27 PM
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11. Eloriel 101....great stuff..thanks TR
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:32 PM
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12. Re-Post: Demystifying Leo STRAUSS
Re: "Strauss was a philosopher, not a political scientist, who focused on the classics (esp. Plato) but who was infuenced by Germans who also influenced Hitler's thinking including Nietsche and Heidegger."

Seeming mavericks like PAGLIA, NIETZSCHE, STRAUSS, and CHEENEE's guru Victor Davis HANSON---------are less mysterious if the first level of seeing them is in the context of their common background, the CLASSICS DEPARTMENT ("philology" in NIETZSCHE's case), NOT that STRAUSS was "influenced" by NIETZSCHE, but that ALL of these people immersed themselves in the pre-Christian values, where physical vitality (brute force) had its place, where (later-)Christian virtues like "humility" were seen as WEAKNESSES, and "pride" was fucking-A, more like today's "gloating". It's not PAGLIA or HANSON or STRAUSS being derivative from NIETZSCHE, it's all of them, including NIETZSCHE being Classicists, soaking up the 'tudes and values of the Ancients, wannaBE an Ancient actually.

I doubt that HITLER's "thinking" was influenced by such as NIETZSCHE, whose unintellectual sister sold him at the crude level of her misunderstanding of him, on the basis of a "proto-Nazi" when his mind was gone and he was unable to speak for himself. The Nazis were LOOKING BACK to find historical justifications, the same way CHEENEE looked to HANSON to find historical precedents for the PNAC goals and the Iraq attack----not being INFLUENCED proactively.

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(Sondheim)

....(Miles)
"Stand aside, everyone! I take large steps! ....We not only fought but we won, too!
....(Soldiers)
Look at those arms! Look at that chest! Look at them!

(Miles)
Not to mention the rest! Even I am impressed!

....I am my ideal!

....I, Miles Gloriousus Him, Miles Gloriousus
I, paragon of virtues Him, paragon of virtues

....I, in war the most admired
In wit the most inspired
In love the most desired
In dress the best displayed
I am a parade! ....

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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:40 PM
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13. Kick
Thanks! That was an informative and interesting read.
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