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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:38 PM Original message |
cloture happening?... |
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Emboldened Chimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. They're calling the roll... |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. What are the odds of cloture passing AND the bill failing? |
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Emboldened Chimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Not sure |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. no |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks. I almost missed it watching Cspan 2 |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. Just about to post this |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. anybody keeping |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Is it possible they screwed with the repukes to mess up the count? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Crunch time comes now |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. ugh only 6 votes against |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. When it hits 60 for |
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Emboldened Chimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Wait, are they voting on the actual bill? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. this is cloture vote |
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WENSTJDON (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. Wyden just voted aye |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Lieberman NO |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. hagel NO |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. Hagel no Chafee no |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
18. 3 minns to go doesnt sound good so far |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. what happens when the clock reaches 0? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. if cloture is wining they swing the gavel |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Daschle YES... |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
19. Where can I watch on the internet? n/t |
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CheshireCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. You can watch it |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2 |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Thanks! n/t |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Cspan 2 |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. Reid aye what? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. he voted for cloture |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
21. christ Reid voted for cloture |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's going to pass |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. yup I think your right |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. Biden--aye |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
29. Biden, Conrad, Corzine all aye! Doomed |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
95. nah NOT doomed if Corizine voted for cloture....something is up...it will |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
30. Feinstein - AYE n/t |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
32. Feinstein ... AYE! |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. Daschle -- aye |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
36. Daschal - aye! WTF? |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
38. Remember folks....real vote could change. |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I'm hoping this is Daschle's plan |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. it would be the first time Daschle |
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nomaco-10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. maybe he wants a photo op in the Rose Garden again. |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. this is what I think |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
39. I'm confused |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:54 PM Original message |
Byrd and Durbin -- no |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
40. does not sound good |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. does NOT look good. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
43. Nelson of FL, aye, but he is against the bill for sure. |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:59 PM Original message |
so, you think they are just not supporting |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
52. Rethugs are sure to get 51 votes if they get cloture! Procedural delays? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Nelson's office told me he would be voting against cloture! |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Daschle said he would vote NO on the bill |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Nelson said yesterday on the floor that he's against this bill. |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
44. Landrieu--aye |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
46. Anybody have a count?? |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. Repubs on floor look ready to party |
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Mel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
49. uggh! |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. They look like a bunch of pigs... Sorry.. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
53. So, are Kerry and Edwards going to vote this time? n/t |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Ozone_man, Kerry and Edwards are filibustering this turkey! |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
56. COUNT?? |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. They have more than 60, I think... |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. C-SPAN SUCKS!! |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. what are they waiting for?? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. They havent got the 60 yet they need |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. They're well over 60 (nt) |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:17 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. but why aren't they stopping then? |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:18 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. toast |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I'm going to roll a DOOBEE while im waiting |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. How can that be with so many Dems voting for cloture! |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:15 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Theyre in the HUDDLE now. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
68. 70-29 |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. 70-29 |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. you are right my mistake |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. 10 spineless dems. |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
70. 70 Ayes. I can't believe it. 70 Ayes. n/t |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Who didn't vote? (nt) |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:21 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. now 2 hrs of debate... |
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Emboldened Chimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
74. They just waved some procedure of some kind |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Looks like some of those delays Daschle |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. in violation of the budget act? |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
77. They have really screwed us on this one. There should have been |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. It aint over yet |
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Emboldened Chimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Yeah, he's railing against it right now |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:33 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Oh I see what you're saying. |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. but in the end they'll vote on it |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:35 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Is it true that the Frist family |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:36 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Daschle is a good speaker |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:42 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. I hadn't heard that. If it's true then he should have recused himself |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:37 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. It sounded like he was trying to |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. I'm hopeful but doubtfull |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:36 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Daschle didn't have the cloture votes. This is his only recourse. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. The Senate version of the bill is over 1000 pages long! |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. It's the same trick that the |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
82. Daschle's making some good points |
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Emboldened Chimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
93. Domenici crying about Daschle's move |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 01:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Nichols is on..let me get my gun. |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
96. Graham on at 2PM |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Graham has a lot of good points |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:14 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. yeah, pictures of old ladies |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
99. Grassley is whining about the budget technicality. |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:20 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Schmuck Gass-bag....notice his bleeding knuckles |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:23 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. to recap, do we need 60 votes on the budget POO ? |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. The repugs need 60 votes in order to go over budget. |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. i'm not sure |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
104. Barbara Boxer talking about Claw Back - |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Stop it! You're killing me... |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
105. Santorum is on |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Know what ya mean, I had to mute my set |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:44 PM Original message |
he's whining |
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MoonAndSun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:44 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. NEW THREAD being started on Medicare cloture vote.... |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 02:56 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. I am locking this thread. |
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