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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:12 PM
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CBC viewers: Did anybody see "Deadline Iraq - Uncensored"
It ran from 10-11pm ET

Uncensored is the key word. You haven't seen anything like this documentary for blood, guts, and feelings. Reporters and cameramen show and describe what they saw in Iraq.

Unfuckingbelievable!



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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:13 PM
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1. Posted regarding this just as you did.
I'm still seething at the war-mongering goons that made this war happen with their lies. There's also a companion piece on the web - http://www.cbc.ca/deadlineiraq/
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:16 PM
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2. Do you think that this deserves a MUST SEE TV alert for leftcoasters?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:16 PM
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3. Is it on PBS too?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:19 PM
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4. No, this is not likely to ever be shown on US television
This would change some minds on the topic of war.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:07 AM
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15. available via direct tv at all?
I'd like to know...
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:54 PM
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17. There's a partial quicktime of it in post #13. nt
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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:23 PM
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5. Absolutely.
What the 'embeds' weren't allowed to report (or photo editors didn't want. One example - photo editor turned down a series of hospital photos of Ali (the Iraqi boy who lost both arms and his entire family) - they called him 'Stumpy' - because there weren't any of him 'smiling'.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:31 PM
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7. Is anyone else at their limit?
The arrogance and apathy of some human beings is uncomprehensible. I think I'd better go to bed now. I can't take anymore of this Bushit. To say something so heartless regarding that little boy...oh my god...unbelievable.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:24 PM
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6. Can you relay anything from this program?
Edited on Sun Nov-23-03 11:26 PM by liberalmuse
We're never going to see it. The Americans who support this atrocity should be forced to watch the carnage or hear the descriptions of it. They supported this godforsaken slaughtering of a people who never threatened them and will never have to bear the consequences of their actions.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:34 PM
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8. The CBC website is quite good
this is from the intro page:

INTRODUCTION

There were two wars in Iraq. One featured soldiers. The other featured journalists. News organizations competed with one another, and the resulting risks journalists took to be first on a given story sometimes got them killed. The fact is that journalists and journalism were often front and centre in the stories that came out of the conflict. Embedding versus unilateral. The high mortality rate of journalists. Criticisms surrounding the soundness of the coverage. The unprecedented speed and immediacy of transmitting words and pictures of combat.

Now that the war is "over", journalists and journalism are still making headlines. Christiane Amanpour of CNN has stated that the coverage of the war, particularly in America, was too driven by patriotism. John Burns of the New York Times recently said that the Iraq war highlights how corrupt journalism has become. His colleague at the Times, Judith Miller, has herself been accused by some media observers of being corrupted by Pentagon influences. The controversy around Tony Blair and the BBC's coverage of the war continues to boil.

Given all this, we thought it would be fascinating and informative to zero in on the journalists who were there. Whether there were logistical impediments to getting their stories out, or editorial concerns, or military restrictions, there was much that they couldn't, or wouldn't say, during the war. Now they can. We interviewed nearly 50 journalists from around the world, representing the broadest range of media affiliations. You can read the entire interviews from 12 of them here on our website.

And the composite picture they give us of this war is one that we didn't really see: what went on behind the scenes, the fear, the exhilaration, the tedium, the professional gratification, as well as the toll it took on them emotionally and psychologically. It is their stories, as well as footage and pictures that never saw air time during the war, that lie at the heart of "Deadline Iraq: Uncensored Stories of the War.”

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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:53 PM
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9. I think I'm going to be ill.
Edited on Sun Nov-23-03 11:54 PM by Wonk
Soldiers running into burning vehicles (trucks carrying ammo with DU) to drive them away to save other soldiers from the exploding ammo.

A journalist hit by friendly fire, blind in one eye, blood pouring down his face, he kept on filming.

(just some examples)

This documentary ought to be broadcast on every major US network simultaneously in prime time. Pre-empt Friends and Survivor and all that other crap for it. This is what war looks like.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:57 PM
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10. Wonk, did you quicktime it?
People really need to see it. It's a real mind changer.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:01 AM
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11. I wish I had. My hard drive on that computer is too full at the moment.
I knew this was going to be on but didn't realize the power of it. If you know when it (the one hour version) might be re-broadcast please PM me.

There's going to be a two hour version airing next Sunday. I'll make it a point to have plenty of hard drive space free to catch that one.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:10 AM
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12. Will do. The 2 hour version will be shown at 10am ET next Sunday
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:44 AM
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13. Partial quicktime here (limited HD space on that box)
Roughly from 18:00 in to 55:00 or so.

103 M
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:34 AM
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16. Good work, Wonk. ... Thank you. ... MUST SEE TV
Watch for 5 minutes. Try to turn it off and walk away.

Betcha can't.
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:19 PM
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19. I second that
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45th Med Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 08:49 PM
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18. CAN SOMEONE CAPTURE THE WHOLE THING?
CAN SOMEONE CAP THE WHOLE THING THE NEXT TIME IT IS AIRED? I HAVE SPACE TO HOST IT ON MY SERVER TO PASS IT AROUND.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:03 AM
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14. this is horrific ....
<"The Iraqis who had been defending that stretch of road were roasted alive. I couldn't see them but I could smell them and it's the most sickening smell you'll ever smell in your life and it stayed in your clothes for days. In the day light you saw there were just skeletons, burned, macabre looking figures on the ground like pieces of charcoal."

"I remember looking at them and thinking what a waste. You're somebody's husband, your somebody's father, you're somebody's son and now you're dead. You're out here in nowhere, we're not going to bury you and wild animals will eat your corpse. No one is going to know how you died, where you died, you just simply vanished off the planet."

The military's goal was to enter Baghdad as quickly as possible. They raced forward leaving the destruction behind them.

"There were no body counts done, there were no holes dug, no burials, they were left and we kept moving, always moving."


One day Simpson saw the soldiers gun down an Iraqi officer who was bathing in the bushes with an AK-47 within reach. The body lay there burning for an hour hour a half before a corpsman put out the fire with an extinguisher.

"The corpsman went up and said 'better you than me.' And that was it. It was just cold steel. No emotion whatsoever, total disconnect. And I simply thought, these guys were trying to kill me a few minutes ago, how can I feel sorry for them?"

Simpson also witnessed some horrific mistakes. Tense and under the constant threat of suicide bombers, soldiers fired on innocent civilians attempting to flee the city at military checkpoints.>

:(
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:24 PM
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20. Mirrored here.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:47 PM
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21. Thanks. If one link is slow then DUers can try the other. nt
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