Wellstone Conspiracy by JFK expert

[Shadoobie]

This was in the Duluth News Tribune yesterday (11/20). Jim Fetzer is a Professor at UMD and has published/editted a few books about JFK's assassination.

From the article:

"Point of View by JIM FETZER
One man's opinion: Evidence indicates that Wellstone crash was no accident

Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was a serious man who cared profoundly about his fellow citizens. He took courageous stands against an administration that he viewed with profound suspicion, arguing eloquently against tax cuts for the rich, the subversion of the Constitution, and violating international accords. He would have led the opposition to the war in Iraq if only he had had the chance. Everyone knew it and he may have died because of it.

For nearly a year now, evidence has been accumulating about the event that ended the life of this magnificent human being. Whatever caused the crash was not the plane, the pilots or the weather. In spite of what you may have heard, the plane was exceptional, the pilots well-qualified and the weather posed no significant problems. Even the National Transportation Safety Board's own simulations of the plane, the pilots and the weather were unable to bring the plane down."

--more--
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthtribune/news/opinion/7306797.htm

He has been pretty busy with his work on the JFK assassination. Several article are in today's paper at:
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/

-Greg

[Lindacooks]

1. That's a good article

Thanks for posting it. I got chills reading it. And I will never get over Senator Wellstone's death.

[BayCityProgressive]

2. I don't really like conspiracy theories but..

I do think JFK was either offed by Castro since they didn't exactly get along or by the CIA over Vietnam. Robert was the first politician to attack organized crime. Not a good idea for your health. The timing of Wellstone's death was highly suspicious.

[tom_paine]

3. But...but...the NTSB is incorruptible!

Please...Wellstone was murdered.

[SpiralHawk]

4. Great article - thanks

kick

[mhr]

5. As A Commercial Pilot, I Don't Buy It

How does an electromagnetic pulse bring down an aircarft with mechanical backups?

The NTSB says in their report that the pilots flew too slow. This would lead to a stall spin accident that is consistent with the crash.

The author of the article ties together some interesting bits of information but there is no real linkage to the crash and its cause.

[msmcghee]

6. I am not a pilot . .

. . but I have flown hundreds of hours in the co-pilot seat of many twin engine private aircraft.

I have never seen a pilot who on landing approach was not totally focussed on all aspects of the plane's position, attitude, speed, etc.

Every professional pilot knows that the process of landing the plane is where the greatest danger is and is where they earn their wages - and all their experience and expertise is required.

The idea that they just didn't realize that the airspeed had dropped into the 70's during a bad-weather approach seems totally implausible to me - even if they were inexperienced pilots. But these were very experienced professionals.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

11. Spacing out during landing

seems as unlikely as spacing out while trying to merge into a freeway that has cars whizzing by at 75 mph. Heavens, even commercial passengers know that take-off and landing are the two most dangerous parts of any air trip. A pilot would have to be distracted by something else or incapacitated to not be fully alert during landing, just as I would have to be not to be fully alert when merging into speeding traffic.

The reports that the pilot had already pulled crazy stunts with Wellstone on board also strikes me as odd. If the Wellstones were notoriously nervous about flying, would they have agreed to fly again with a hot dog pilot? I'm not nearly as nervous as they reportedly were, but I sure wouldn't fly twice with anyone who acted as if he was practicing his air show skills.

Because my computer died temporarily, I no longer have the links to the preliminary NTSB report, but the eyewitness reports were in there. A couple of them heard popping sounds (which is the sound that a gasoline explosion makes), and one of them saw flames coming out of somewhere (I forget the details).

It still seems strange to me that although the wings, where the fuel tanks would have been, came off during the crash, the fusilage burned intensely enough that the bodies were unrecognizable. Not all crashed planes burn, you know.

While an EMP device seems unlikely, there are more low-tech ways to bring a plane down, and some of them could even be concealed by a fusilage fire--or by one person on an FBI team that was at the crash site long before the NTSB investigators. A radio controlled explosion is one possibility.

Whenever I hear that an accident was the result of "pilot error"--and I thought this before the Wellstone crash--especially in crashes were the cockpit crew was killed, I can't help thinking that it's the equivalent of going to the doctor with a lingering illness and having the doctor say after a cursory examination,"You have a virus." In other words, "We don't really know, but we've got to come up with something."

Can I prove anything? Will we ever know? No to both questions. The only people that we know for sure know what happened on that day are dead. But my mystery reader instincts tell me that this was no accident.

[JailBush]

7. But I recall an article in a local Minnesota paper that said

people living in the area saw and hear Wellstone's plane and knew it was in trouble. I don't have the article at my fingertips, but I don't remember it saying anything about a stall spin.

[msmcghee]

9. I expect if the plane started to stall . .

they would have taken corrective measures, like throttles to the wall, retract landing gear (if they were down and if they had time) etc. That could have caused the sound of the engines to change - increase and become louder.

Any pilots here have a more intelligent opinion on this?

[Noordam]

12. As soon as the stall warning goes off

you add power and nose down IF it is safe.

Also each twin has something called VMC, or Velocity Minimum Control. And that is normally above stall speed and you DO NOT GO below it unless you have a nice runway under your wheels.



Noordam <- Airplane Single and Multiengine Land...(inactive). :)

[Noordam]

8. Forget what the NTSB said,,, IF the FBI were sending people

while his plane was on the ground and before the accident... Would you think the NTSB missed something....

[Cleita]

10. As a single incident it's hard to believe it wasn't an accident.

However when you start putting it together with a larger picture of liberals disappearing either by death or being booted from office, along with many key institutions suddenly turning conservative, it starts becoming plausible.

Hitler operated in a similar way. People who opposed him and the Nazi party either disappeared, "accidentally" died, or were stripped of any importance and power they may have had up until then. Even those who had helped him get to the top were gotten rid of when they outlived their usefulness to him. Every aspect of German life was infiltrated by Nazis and turned into propaganda organizations for the Nazis, even religions and social clubs.

Individually, each incident didn't seem to be a deliberate set up situation, but if you looked at the aggregate whole, then a picture of malfaesance emerges.

[Noordam]

13. Just check with my JFK expert and this

man is a very good researcher.