Anyone know if there was touch screen voting in Louisiana?

[eyeontheprize]

And if so where? Were their snags? How much did it hurt us there?

[Cooley Hurd]

1. Excellent question, of which I've been curious about, as well...

[KeepItReal]

2. Here you go

Voting System Used

Tan = Lever
Green = DRE (BBV or Touch Screen)

[eyeontheprize]

3. Any news as to its impact.

What would the spread have been without it?

It was pretty healthy with it.

[KeepItReal]

4. We'll never know what kind of effect BBV had, just the end result

"The Democrat, who was clearly the aggressor in the waning days of the campaign, scored big in her Acadiana base -- Blanco is from Lafayette -- as well as Democrat-rich New Orleans, including a 2-to-1 vote margin in Orleans Parish.

Oliver Thomas, president of the New Orleans City Council, said a combination of higher-than-expected turnout in New Orleans -- possibly 60 percent -- and late gains from previously undecided voters helped pave Blanco's win.

Jindal carried East Baton Rouge Parish. He also carried Republican-leaning parishes that serve as bedroom communities in the New Orleans area, including Jefferson and St. Tammany, but without the margins needed to win the race. The candidates were almost even in Caddo Parish, which includes Shreveport."

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/111603/new_blancowins001.shtml

[eyeontheprize]

5. Thanks for the link but does it explain if she did better or worse than

expected where there is touch screen voting? I don't know my LA geography.

[Blue_Roses]

8. do you have the breakdown of votes by these parishes?

I will try to post a link of it. That is very telling.

[Blue_Roses]

9. here's how each parish voted

Louisiana Secretary of State
Election Results by Parish-Unofficial
Results for Election Date: 11/15/03
Governor
11/16/2003 13.04.16





Parish Kathleen Babineaux Blanco "Bobby" Jindal
Acadia, 63 of 63
Click here for Results by Precinct 10,938 8,226
Allen, 34 of 34
Click here for Results by Precinct 4,502 2,109
Ascension, 60 of 60
Click here for Results by Precinct 13,733 16,272
Assumption, 24 of 24
Click here for Results by Precinct 5,966 3,470
Avoyelles, 50 of 50
Click here for Results by Precinct 8,331 3,395
Beauregard, 53 of 53
Click here for Results by Precinct 4,259 4,152
Bienville, 26 of 26
Click here for Results by Precinct 3,262 1,955
Bossier, 68 of 68
Click here for Results by Precinct 8,946 15,006
Caddo, 154 of 154
Click here for Results by Precinct 34,292 33,004
Calcasieu, 117 of 117
Click here for Results by Precinct 27,683 24,835
Caldwell, 29 of 29
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,485 1,346
Cameron, 13 of 13
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,854 1,783
Catahoula, 31 of 31
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,429 1,010
Claiborne, 31 of 31
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,350 2,074
Concordia, 28 of 28
Click here for Results by Precinct 5,554 3,119
DeSoto, 54 of 54
Click here for Results by Precinct 4,105 3,425
East Baton Rouge, 300 of 300
Click here for Results by Precinct 62,638 70,547
East Carroll, 24 of 24
Click here for Results by Precinct 1,573 696
East Feliciana, 24 of 24
Click here for Results by Precinct 4,432 2,735
Evangeline, 73 of 73
Click here for Results by Precinct 7,951 3,438
Franklin, 32 of 32
Click here for Results by Precinct 4,038 2,641
Grant, 23 of 23
Click here for Results by Precinct 3,505 2,344
Iberia, 59 of 59
Click here for Results by Precinct 13,965 9,414
Iberville, 45 of 45
Click here for Results by Precinct 8,507 4,240
Jackson, 38 of 38
Click here for Results by Precinct 3,592 2,717
Jefferson, 267 of 267
Click here for Results by Precinct 52,319 87,712
Jefferson Davis, 45 of 45
Click here for Results by Precinct 5,174 3,866
Lafayette, 121 of 121
Click here for Results by Precinct 32,734 34,951
Lafourche, 71 of 71
Click here for Results by Precinct 15,695 13,429
LaSalle, 29 of 29
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,974 1,917
Lincoln, 45 of 45
Click here for Results by Precinct 5,680 5,194
Livingston, 56 of 56
Click here for Results by Precinct 13,451 17,812
Madison, 38 of 38
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,747 948
Morehouse, 71 of 71
Click here for Results by Precinct 4,917 3,594
Natchitoches, 51 of 51
Click here for Results by Precinct 6,130 4,681
Orleans, 442 of 442
Click here for Results by Precinct 92,746 43,005
Ouachita, 79 of 79
Click here for Results by Precinct 20,194 22,491
Plaquemines, 20 of 20
Click here for Results by Precinct 4,956 5,645
Pointe Coupee, 31 of 31
Click here for Results by Precinct 6,098 3,351
Rapides, 104 of 104
Click here for Results by Precinct 20,875 16,192
Red River, 20 of 20
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,129 1,318
Richland, 40 of 40
Click here for Results by Precinct 3,731 2,773
Sabine, 44 of 44
Click here for Results by Precinct 3,058 3,140
St. Bernard, 36 of 36
Click here for Results by Precinct 10,664 14,428
St. Charles, 45 of 45
Click here for Results by Precinct 7,908 10,727
St. Helena, 15 of 15
Click here for Results by Precinct 3,918 1,322
St. James, 28 of 28
Click here for Results by Precinct 5,727 3,442
St. John the Baptist, 35 of 35
Click here for Results by Precinct 9,484 8,136
St. Landry, 96 of 96
Click here for Results by Precinct 19,500 9,049
St. Martin, 60 of 60
Click here for Results by Precinct 11,407 6,259
St. Mary, 58 of 58
Click here for Results by Precinct 9,767 7,088
St. Tammany, 149 of 149
Click here for Results by Precinct 17,067 49,675
Tangipahoa, 80 of 80
Click here for Results by Precinct 17,914 16,711
Tensas, 22 of 22
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,038 919
Terrebonne, 103 of 103
Click here for Results by Precinct 15,997 14,626
Union, 46 of 46
Click here for Results by Precinct 3,612 3,501
Vermilion, 62 of 62
Click here for Results by Precinct 14,305 7,863
Vernon, 76 of 76
Click here for Results by Precinct 5,441 4,133
Washington, 54 of 54
Click here for Results by Precinct 8,605 6,501
Webster, 49 of 49
Click here for Results by Precinct 6,927 6,219
West Baton Rouge, 21 of 21
Click here for Results by Precinct 4,923 4,120
West Carroll, 17 of 17
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,429 1,950
West Feliciana, 18 of 18
Click here for Results by Precinct 2,571 1,631
Winn, 46 of 46
Click here for Results by Precinct 3,045 1,908



New Election Results Request | Index

[Blue_Roses]

10. those parishes that are "green"

are: Calcasieu,Acadia, St. Landry, Caddo, East Feliciana, East Baton Rouge,West Baton Rouge, Ascension, Tangipahoa, St.Tammny, St. Bernard, Lower Plaquemines, Upper Jefferson, Orleans

[Jacobin]

11. Doesn't look like the machines were rigged.

Its about what you see parish by parish for repub/Dem contests. The split looks about normal.

[BevHarris]

6. The issue is audited voting, not touch screen voting

Whether optical scan or touch screen, if no one compares voter-verified paper ballots against the electronic voting machine tally, the votes can be rigged or incorrectly programmed.

This is a common misunderstanding -- however, the three security problems mentioned in Chapter 11 of Black Box Voting, as it turns out, were all with optical scans -- one of which helped George Bush take office.

That being said, Louisiana was one of the first places touch screens were used. There was a huge scandal with Sequoia, and a Louisiana official was convicted, bribery or bid-rigging I think; Phil Foster, who is still with Sequoia, was indicted but not convicted and Foster's brother-in-law was also indicted I believe.

Then parts of Louisiana got ES&S, which malfunctioned so badly they have reportedly decided to junk them.

Hmm. That leaves Diebold and Hart Intercivic, doesn't it. Which one of those two concentrates on statewide buys?

Bingo. Diebold.

Bev Harris
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

[eyeontheprize]

7. You are doing a fantastic job Bev.

Yesterday I went to Google and searched "News" for Diebold and 10 or more pages came up. It is still a hot issue, you may get them yet.

If I understand your post correctly, there was no BBV issue in yesterday's election. Right?

[BevHarris]

12. The "BBV" issues take a few days to appear

Another misconception, fed by voting company press releases:

"The election went smoothly."

Problems are caught during the auditing phases (such as we have, now that they don't let us compare paper against machine). You see them when reports filter in about statistical anomalies, or a different number of votes than voters, or oddball last-minute changes in the vote. Absentee votes are another area ripe for abuse. I always cringe when I see people say "I'll just vote absentee."

Remember, absentee votes are counted by optical scan machines, and those use the hackable GEMS (or something similar).

We ain't outta the woods, not by a long shot.

Bev Harris
http://www.blackboxvoting.org