which type of candidate's wife do you prefer?

[pruner]

a) Judith Steinberg Dean, MD – an independent woman more interested in serving the needs of her patients and children than taking an active part in her husband's campaign

b) Theresa Heinz Kerry - an independently wealthy woman & renowned philanthropist who plays an integral role in her husband's campaign

c) Elizabeth Edwards – a woman who gave up her career to take care of her children and now serves on the board of several charitable organizations; she plays an active but less integral role in her husband's campaign than Theresa Heinz Kerry does

[jeter]

1. a) independent women are sexy

And I love doctors.

[rucky]

2. Teresa would make an awesome first lady!

not because she's rich... she's super cool, funny, outspoken, and an all-around babe.

[david_vincent]

3. c)

Notice that she didn't give up her career for the sake of her husband's career - she gave it up for her kids. A truly selfless decision. Yet her charity work shows that she's concerned for others as well as her own family.

[HFishbine]

10. C

C for the reasons above and because she blogs.

[Cleita]

4. a) Judith Steinberg Dean, M. D.

A modern woman for a new millenium. No woman needs to take a back seat to her husband anymore than he has to for her.

[leftofthedial]

5. I think they all are terrific women

Personally though, as one with 29 years of marriage behind him, I prefer the Dennis Kucinich alternative.

[pruner]

7. Kucinich's alternatives…

http://www.politicsnh.com/mrskucinich.html

:puke:

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

33. you should post a picture of yourself

I'd like to know whether I would post a vomiting icon for your picture. I bet you don't have the nerve.

[goddess40]

54. You're right - I want them to be themselves

Not play a part the party has dictated - Stepford wife type like the poor Laura Bush.

[dsc]

6. frankly I don't care

I think part of living in America is getting to choose how to live one's life. I think all three are perfectly valid choices and any of them would be great.

[girl gone mad]

8. I'd say (b).

Ms. Kerry is a woman who has led a pretty interesting life. I guess that's what I'd like to see in a first lady. I think most people want a President who is accomplished and intelligent - not an ordinary guy. I feel the same about the first lady. I don't want her to be someone I might run into down at the library bake sale (Laura), I'd prefer someone who has done some remarkable things in her life.

That alone wouldn't sway my vote, but if we were just choosing based on first ladies, well, I think Sharpton was correct when he said he would choose her to party with.

[burrowowl]

9. I would prefer

a WOMAN canidate!

[ibegurpard]

15. Yes...I would be interested to see whether someone would ask

what kind of candidate's HUSBAND would you prefer?

[slinkerwink]

11. Definitely A)

I'd prefer Steinberg over Theresa Kerry and Elizabeth Edwards....

[readmylips]

12. Mrs. Dr. Dr. Dean-Steinberg

Mrs Heinz-Kerry's idol is Baba Bush, her equal in billionarism and elitism. Heinz is still a repig and why should the democrats have a repig first lady when we have Dr. Dean-Steinberg.

Clark's wife's name is Gertrude. I relate that name to the meanest old aunt in our family, Aunt Birdy may she live in hell.

[seaglass]

16. Wow, that was really hateful. Why don't you read

up on Theresa Heinz and then form an opinion.

http://www.chatham.edu/rci/well/women31-40/heinz.html

I think all three women made admirable choices.

[dsc]

19. what a thought provoking post

You sure aren't making Dean look good with that.

[JI7]

52. thanks for your opinion

seeing the standards you have i'm sure both teresa and gert would be happy you don't like them.

[Terwilliger]

13. how about the Dennis Kucinich kind of wife

none

[sweetheart]

26. That is indeed an improvement

I would love to see a single president.

[ibegurpard]

14. Any one who is doing what she feels is her calling is OK by me.

n/t

[bearfartinthewoods]

46. well said. the choice is up to the wonan

[Alenne]

17. any of them would be fine with me. nt

[blm]

18. Nice attempt to try to smear Teresa. This is just rude.

Why does anyone want to smear wives?

Teresa grew up nursing the poor in Mozambique with her doctor father. She uses her money to subsidize clinics and healthcare for the underprivileged. She is one of the world's foremost philanthropists for environmental causes. She speaks five languages fluently and worked at the UN as an interpreter.

To imply she is just some rich woman with her nose in her husband's campaign is truly ignorant.

And mean. Just like Deanies spread the meme that Kerry is a "corrupt Washington insider."

[dsc]

21. I reread the orginal post

and now I see where you get your quotes. You simply invent them.

This is what he wrote.

b) Theresa Heinz Kerry - an independently wealthy woman & renowned philanthropist who plays an integral role in her husband's campaign

This is what you characterized the above as:

To imply she is just some rich woman with her nose in her husband's campaign is truly ignorant.

end of quotes.

I take it your computer editted out renowned philanthropist. But there it is in black and white. Maybe your computer editted out intergral role but there it is in black and white. There is a smear here but it is your post not the original one which is the smear. Shame on you.

[blm]

37. If he had meant that he wouldn't have used her in the next

description to compare with Elizabeth Edwards.

And, what real purpose does a thread like this have, comparing candidate's wives?

[dsc]

40. This is what he said there

she plays an active but less integral role in her husband's campaign than Theresa Heinz Kerry does


He compares their roles in the campaign, not their lives as a whole, not anything of the sort. I don't think it is a contraversial statement that Teresa Heinz has more of a role in Kerry's campaign then Ms. Edwards has in Edwards'. Your interpretation is nothing short of bizarre.

[JI7]

49. elizabeth edward's is very involved

she is almost always with john edwards in his campaigning and putting in appearances herself to spread his message. how is teresa heinz involved more in kerry's campaign than mrs. edward's is ?

[dsc]

53. from what I have gathered

admittedly from the press, Teresa Heinz makes many political decisons in the Kerry camapaign. I don't think Ms. Edwards does that.

[JI7]

56. can you give me a link ?

i would like examples on that.

[dsc]

57. I will attempt to find them

I know she had a lot of input on the decision to not use public financing but that is an admittedly unusual case.

On edit I appear to be failing in that endeavor. The closest I came was a snarky article that I don't trust so I won't use it. I retract that though I do think that the poster thought the same thing.

[Name removed]

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[blm]

36. Your implication is clear.

Denying it is pathetic.

[pruner]

39. only to people viewing the world through ketchup-colored glasses

:smoke:

[RetroLounge]

51. OMFG! Your Paranoia needs treatment. Fast.

There is a saying when reading posts.

Read the black letters and ignore what's NOT THERE.

Sheesh...

and you bitch about some so-called Dean Defense Forces?

[Avalux]

20. How about Gert?

Gert Clark. She seems to be pretty cool. And Clark said himself the decision for him to run was up to her; that's why it took so long for him to enter the race - wouldn't have if she'd said no.
Sounds to me like she's at least his equal. Now she's out there with him.

[Mattforclark]

34. Yeah, I'd go with Gert too

But of course we are biased :)

[mndemocrat_29]

22. B

Theresa Heinz Kerry is awesome (though I also like Steinberg and Edwards). Any one of them will make a great first lady.

[LifeDuringWartime]

23. you vote for the candidates, not their wives

who gives a shit? as long as they aren't tipper gore, it's all gravy.

[meg]

24. Bill Clinton

Why not a husband?

[KansDem]

58. I agree!

Bill Clinton would make the perfect first "First Gentleman". He would be absolutely right for that role: intelligent, self-assured, & affable. And he would deflect with humor and wit any crap thrown at him by the GOP neo-con fascists.

[bleedingheart]

25. would we be asking this question if the candidate for president

was a woman... would we be asking what kind of husband she should have?

As a feminist I support any woman's choice for her life....

[pruner]

27. just to clarify…

I was trying to get at what level of involvement in their husband's campaigns you prefer the wives to have… not which of the 3 women I listed you like best.

I didn't include Gert Clark because her level of involvement seems similar to that of Elizabeth Edwards.

[MisterP]

29. a & b

lean b

[Malva Zebrina]

30. anything but a dumabass like Laura

I swear, this Laura, do nothing in her entire life, Bush, is extremely annoying as a first lady. She is manufactured by the Rove propaganda team as a something who was once a librarian ???????, but acutally is a nothing and has never done anything but birth and raise two bratty daughters--and is an embarrassment to the country she represents--she is a robot--a real dumassed , insipid, woman.

[laura888]

31. the first lady has really so little power...

...I can't say which is better.

Whichever supports the best person in the best way.

that's all.

[IronLionZion]

35. have you heard of Hillary Clinton?

[laura888]

38. did she do more than support Bill?

I am a somewhat fan of Hillary, but please give me 3-4 actions she accomplished as First Lady.

[spooky3]

32. E. Edwards appears to be taking a temporary

break in her career. She was very accomplished before taking time out for family. From your description, she might have "(given) up her career" immediately after school, she might be a "traditional" wife, but she is anything but that.

[no_hypocrisy]

41. A combination of precedents of First Ladies, albeit I wish they were

candidates for the presidency: Eleanor Roosevelt, Jacqueline Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Rosalyn Carter, Abigail Adams, and Dolly Madison. Brains, style, elegance, simplicity, warmth, compassion, and strength. 'Nuff said.

[PVnRT]

42. Why does who their wife is

have anything to do with it? The shitslinging around here regarding the candidates' stance on issues, or their perceived stances, or their former ones, is bad enough - do we start trashing their wives now, too?

[DemDogs]

43. Edwards was a lawyer for almost 20 years

And I don't know where you got the idea that John Edwards relies less on her than John Kerry relies on Teresa Heinz.
Watch the C-Span clip of her on radio in New Hampshire before you decide that. I saw it; there is a thread about it under P&C
<http://www.johnedwards2004.com/media/video/20031106-keene-elizabeth.ram>

[DrBB]

44. Um, a husband, maybe? n/t

[Stuckinthebush]

45. I really just care about the candidate

What the spouse does is no concern of mine.

I am personally more attracted to A.

[incapsulated]

47. The only kind of candidates wife I disapprove of...

Is a trophy wife.

Other than that, I don't care. If she's some great and inspiring person, that's great, but I'm not voting for the First Lady, I'm voting for the President.

[JI7]

48. elizabeth edward's is very involved in the campaign

if you have seen the way he speaks of her and just seeing him campaign you would see how very involved she is. she is with him just about all the time. she even does her own appearances to help spread his message. and she does a very good job of it.

[FlaGranny]

50. I don't much

care about the candidate's wife (or husband) except that she (or he) should be strong and independent. If a candidate has chosen that kind of partner, then I assume he/she is self confident and intelligent.

[zanana]

55. WIFE?

Your bias is showing.

[KansDem]

59. I dunno...Which one bakes cookies and has teas?

/sarcasm!!!

Actually, all three would bring a sense of intelligence & independence sorely lacking presently.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

60. It's not up to me

Whichever type of wife the candidate is happy with is fine with me.

[ComerPerro]

61. Don't make me choose

Seriously. This is about has tough as choosing a candidate.

[JI7]

62. the wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend of my candidate

i prefer the one my candidate has just because it would mean that my candidate would be in office.