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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:52 AM
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Did anyone catch John Kerry on Leno last night?
I heard that he rode on to the stage on a motorcycle while wearing a leather bomber jacket.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:55 AM
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1. Yes, he did. And he landed it himself.
Unlike some people and complicated machinery, Kerry was in command.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:57 AM
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2. Did you feel good about his performance?
Was he able to get in any attacks on Bush?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:11 AM
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3. yes, talked halliburton, mostly politics
while it's an entertainment show he still talked a lot about politics and got in halliburton and other things. i didn't watch but heard from others.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:20 AM
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6. Did he ask Leno
why he was instrumental in getting the "gropernator" elected?

Did he ask Leno why he never had any of the groped women on his show?

Did he ask Leno why he's a media whore for the Rovinator?

Did he ask Leno why he never mentioned the fact that the gropenator had meetings with Ken Lay, ala Enron?

Did he ask Leno why he supports a fascist regime who rules the U.S.?

Leno...SUCKS! JMCPO
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:29 AM
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10. agree. leno sucks
which is why i didn't really watch it myself.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:18 PM
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kerry didn't ask, but triumph the insult dog did. man that was
some funny stuff.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:13 AM
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4. No and yes.
No, I wasn't too happy with the overall impression he made. It seemed to me Sen. Kerry wasted time responding to Leno's mentioning of the crude talking dog puppet and Ho-Ho.

I'd have consulted him to spend ALL his time getting his message across: Competence. Competence. Competence. When asked what he would do if President about Iraq, Sen. Kerry explained how he would approach his contacts in the UN and explain that the mission in Iraq was important for all the world. And for participating in the rebuilding process, all the UN nations would benefit, not just Halliburton.

So, yes: JK DID do a good job of blasting the unelected fraud by contrasting his own approach to leadership. And the guy did drive his own Harley Davidson. Not too many people his age even ride a bike.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:26 AM
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8. yes, but
i don't believe that bike he rode was actually his. he has a harley of his own, but the one he drove into the studio didn't belong to him. while i agree with you on wasting time talking about things not important such as that dog triumph, remember, it's still an entertainment show so you can expect much from it. it's one reason i didn't really watch it especially since i don't really care much for leno. i would like to see him on david letterman though. but jay leno gets m uch better ratings for some reason than dave so you will see most candidates more likely to go on leno probably.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:39 AM
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11. Sen. Kerry compared chins.
He got off the bike and said it's nice that people from Massachusetts with big chins could hang out together (something like that).

Thanks for the info on the bike. Having once owned the ugliest motorcycle in California myself, I recognize it is an awesome machine.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 10:02 AM
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14. yeah that was funny
i think leno also said something about how they can be before and after pics for some fitness ad.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:27 AM
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9. I'm always nervous about Leno.......
He likes to dismiss a candidate's criticism of Bush as political self-interest, so I was curious how that went.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:43 AM
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12. Leno said he was a big supporter of Sen. Kerry.
To be honest, I will have to think or see a replay to remember all the Bush angles. The most telling thing was the amount of attention Leno paid Dean. The first question Leno asked was about a motorcycle Kerry sold when he returned from Vietnam. Some guy pulled up in a nice car, asked if he could test the clutch, Kerry hesitatingly allowed him to ride to the end of the driveway and the guy drove off. Kerry looked in the car and saw it had the wires pulled out for jump-starting. He realized then his bike had been stolen and he wanted to be a prosecutor. Leno said it was probably Ho-Ho on the bike.

I'm sorry my memory is a bit hazy still, but I don't recall Leno letting Kerry get any big hits in on Bushler. I do recall Leno let Kerry have free rein while discussing what he would do better than the crazy monkey. In the end, the most important thing was Leno said he was a big supporter of Sen. Kerry.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:59 AM
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13. I thought the Halliburton issue was a BIG hit on Bush.
Especially since Kerry said that Halliburton's profits are the reason Bush won't share the militray burden with other countries that are willing.
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 02:19 PM
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19. Nobody yet has mentioned that Kerry followed
a talking puppet. Yes Leno had him upstaged by a puppet (the puppet was a dog). It was very disrespectful. Do you think Leno would have done that to Arnold? I do not think so.
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Bryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:00 PM
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20. Yeah, but
That was no ordinary talking puppet; that was Triumph the Insult Comic Dog (AKA Late Night with Conan O'Brien writer Robert Smigel), and he tore Jay a new one ("You can let The Terminator take over the show, but you a war veteran like John Kerry on after a frigging talking puppet!?") It was GREAT.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:46 PM
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23. And Kerry handled it with real class
He made a joke about the dog, and a couple of other things. He was able to change the dynamics of the show, which had been pretty whacky up to that point. I was pretty impressed with that alone, alot of people wouldn't have been able to walk right through it, get some points across and get pretty good applause along the way. Oh, and Toby Keith was on after him. Fun night for Kerry, huh?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:52 PM
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25. JK's not afraid to walk into the lion's den. He did Matthews well too.
another hostile environment and Kerry turns it into a good experience. Shit, he's in a hostile environment right now- down in the polls and not getting the union endoresments! If he can make it through this he'll be a near god!
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:55 PM
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26. LOL! Yeah in command, until he tried to put the kickstand down.


And couldn't seem to figure it out without help, then had to do it by hand.


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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:56 PM
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27. it wasn't his bike
and besides, I thought you Dean guys liked "unscripted"?
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:13 PM
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33. Yeah and that disproves that fact is was a contrived phony stunt how?
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 04:13 PM by TLM

It wasn't even his bike... although it isn't exactly like the kickstand is hard to figure out from bike to bike.

And that was about as far from unscripted as you can get... there's a big difference between no script and a bad script. This was a bad script.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:18 AM
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5. I taped it, so I'll watch it later....
Ann Curry showed a clip on the Today Show...
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:22 AM
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7. I Couldn't Bear to Watch
The AP story came out describing the appearance. That encouraged me to leave the TV shut off. I didn't want that episode added to my memory of Senator Kerry.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 10:10 AM
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15. I only caught what they showed this morn
but I think Kerry looked pretty cool.

Julie--bracing for slams
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 10:15 AM
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16. Kerry ALWAYS looks cool
you know I'd never slam that assessment. :)
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:59 PM
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28. He did look cool...maybe if you compared him to Lieberman or Kucinich.


But to anybody else, he was super dork.

The only way he could have looked more dorky is if he'd pulled out a Magic The Gathering deck.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:23 PM
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34. actually, if you want to define dorky
having a neck too big for your shirts goes a long way.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:49 PM
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24. He was just his natural self
Probably why people don't think of him this way, every time they hear about his regular-guy side, they don't tune in. The guy on Leno last night was the guy I see chit chatting on C-Span with voters all the time.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 01:28 PM
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17. Here's irony from a Freeper:
"I suspect it was an elaborately pre-planned photo op. Sad that a politician has to pull such a stunt to draw attention to himself."

I swear you can't make this shit up: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1019995/posts?page=21#21
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:04 PM
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30. You hit on something here that you didn't mean to...

The freeper is being a hypocrite because Bush does the same thing.



But the point I get from that is Kerry and Bush are doing the same crap... just like when he stood in front of that air craft carrier. That bugs me.


But what do you expect... they were frat brothers.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 02:01 PM
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18. Lol...Did he now?
Arsehole.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:13 PM
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21. It's true
arsehole or not.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:10 PM
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32. Yeah, it was bad....

They played footage of a stunt rider blowing through the parking guard rail, then driving intothe studio, and then Kerry rides in about 15 feet from back stage up ontot he stage... and then couldn;t even figure out the freken kickstand, had to reach down and flip it out with his hand.

What a putz.

I had hoped they'd make a joke out of it, but they did it serious... like Kerry is really supposed to be some hardcore biker.

I expect next we'll see Gephardt and Liberman trying to bust it out in a rap contest.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:18 PM
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22. Kerry Kineval!
He should jump a schoolbus!
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:00 PM
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29. A Photo Synopsis
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:05 PM
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31. You have the BEST pictures!
Thanks Dr.Funk!
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