Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Is this fraud?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:47 AM
Original message
Is this fraud?
I was reading the Washington Post this AM and saw this article. I have a legal question for any of you attorney's out there, especially Texas District Attorney's.

“And the Houston Independent School District -- showcase of the "Texas educational miracle" that President Bush has touted as a model for the rest of the nation -- is fending off accusations that it inflated its achievements through fuzzy math.

“Austin is one of more than a dozen Houston high schools caught up in a burgeoning scandal about the reliability of their dropout statistics…. routinely, as many as half of Austin students failed to graduate, the school's reported dropout rate fell from 14.4 percent to 0.3 percent. Even a Houston school board member calls the statistic "baloney."

“If this were any other school district in the nation, few people would pay much attention. But Houston is the political springboard for U.S. Education Secretary Roderick R. Paige….(who) formed a political alliance with Texas Gov. George W. Bush, who became an ardent advocate of accountability and high-stakes testing.”


Then, the article says this:

“…in 1996, …voters turned down a proposed $390 million education bond issue. Two years later, with the help of …public goodwill generated by steadily improving test scores, Paige secured voter approval for $678 million in new loans to rebuild many of the district's decrepit schools.”

I’m not a lawyer, but how is this different from a flim-flam operation? Paige used false data, and scammed the voter out of $678 million that they did not want to pay. The article is right when one comments, "It is all phony; it's just like Enron".

Don’t you go to jail for this?

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14117-2003Nov7.html>
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:57 AM
Response to Original message
1. Absolutely fraud
There was a great segment on NOW with Bill Moyers talking about this exact thing a couple of weeks ago.

SNIP>
BRANCACCIO: In February of this year, local TV station KHOU broke the story of Sharpstown High. It wasn't long before state officials stepped in to investigate. It turned out that the problem wasn't just Sharpstown High. Almost all of the schools the state looked at had reported false dropout rates. Westside High School has 2300 students but, like Sharpstown, it claimed it didn't have any dropouts. Yates High School said it only had 26 dropouts. In reality, it had 373 — more than a quarter of its 1400 students.

Here's how these Houston schools were cooking the books. Texas investigators say school officials were simply coming up with reasons — like transferring or getting a GED — why students shouldn't be listed as dropouts. Imagine Jerroll Tyler's surprise when he found out Sharpstown officials claimed he transferred to another school he'd never even heard of — a claim he believes they knew wasn't true.

<SNIP

http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript238_full.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 11:25 AM
Response to Original message
2. So much fraud has been legalized
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 12:36 PM
Response to Original message
3. Actually, that is pretty close to the legal definition of fraud.
If you tell someone something you know is false, and you know they'll rely on that information to make a decision, which they make, and then they suffer a loss from jusitifiable reliance on that false piece of informaition, it's fraud.

Now, do taxpayer's have standing to sue? Is Paige's department immune from suit?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 07:37 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC