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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:20 PM
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John Warner just called it a "crusade"
"a crusade for the freedom of the Iraqi people." On the NewsHour on PBS. An idiot!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:22 PM
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1. JFC
Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 07:22 PM by wryter2000
Don't these morons ever learn?
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:22 PM
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2. Oh, nice going John
Why don't you sponsor a bill now to outfit all US troops with chainmail and a shield with a big friggin CROSS on it?

(what a stupid #$@^&*)


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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:24 PM
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3. ah, I see... but WE are the ones encouraging the enemy?
John, go back to drinking, please...
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:26 PM
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4. Didnt know he was an alcholic at one point
You may laugh at this but hes the least evil senator in my state, George Allen is much worse. Now heres a gift for Johnny Warner.

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:28 PM
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6. ahh! I remember Allen!
I'm having too many east-coast flashbacks today, lol!

I dunno, John always looked angry and drunk to me :shrug:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:43 PM
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10. I never knew him to be a drunk
Keep in mine Allen is a hell of a lot worst, I can assure you of that, hes like the other George, loves the death penalty, our state has used it the most after Texas since the reinstatement and we arent as big as, sigh :(, and Allen was the idiot who dissed Jimmy Carter for trying to be fair on Cuba, I wrote him and no write back.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:47 PM
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12. Absolutely

Warner is an idiot, but Allen is out and out evil. I'm debating whether to reply to a form letter Warner sent me in regards to a form letter I sent him (via TrueMajority).

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:49 PM
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13. Yep
I am still shocked that the state party ran no one against him but then again the guy who nearly beat him last time is now governor, maybe Mark will run against Allen.
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ChompySnack Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:27 PM
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5. He knew exactly what he was saying
Of course they will call it a misstatement. The neocon's goal is to incite as much violence as possible.

Remember they have all set themselves up to be richly rewarded by an increase in spending for the defense department and homeland security. Right now they are just creating the demand for their services.

Business pure and simple.

Revolting.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:41 PM
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9. I completely agree
with this and believe that Gen Boyton's public comments were made public entirely by design to give a nudge and a wink to the rabid christian right who want an apocolypse.

This war was provoked and will now continue until it's conclusion -- what ever that's supposed to be.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:43 PM
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11. Wasn't it Warner who sent a letter to Rumsfeld about Boykin?
Pot calling the kettle black.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:30 PM
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7. A Crusade to free Muslims....
Well, now I have officially heard everything.
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:41 AM
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22. Bush did the same thing!
Remember early on after 9/11, Bush referred to our soon-to-be measured response as a crusade...then, I believe, Ari spent a few press conferences re-mis-explaining it.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:31 PM
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8. The truth slipped out
They'll issue a "correction".

Only fooling ourselves, not the muslim world.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:50 PM
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14. well, they got their (our) $87 Billion
so i guess their 'crusade' is back on...

dp
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:54 PM
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15. warner was voted
the dumbest person in the senate by his colleagues several years ago. i remember this because the wapo reported it in the early edition but was removed in the later edition.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 08:43 PM
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19. no doubt!
I cannot believe how he keeps getting reelected. I lived in VA in the 70's and 80's... oh, wait, nevermind, I answered my own question.

He is dumber than a rock and twice as dense.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 08:10 PM
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16. Hear now, oh mortals, the words of your imperial Chimp-in-Chief*
Make no mistake: it's an unholy "holy" war.

June 30, 2003 - counterpunch.com

The Revelation of St. George: "God Instructed Me to Strike Saddam"
By CHRIS FLOYD

So now we know. After all the mountains of commentary and speculation, all the earnest debates over motives and goals, all the detailed analyses of global strategy and political ideology, it all comes to down to this: George W. Bush waged war on Iraq because, in his own words, God "instructed me to strike at Saddam."

This gospel was revealed, appropriately enough, in the Holy Land last week, through an unusual partnership between the fractious children of Abraham. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz was given transcripts of a negotiating session between Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas and faction leaders from Hamas and other militant groups. Abbas, who was trying to persuade the groups to call a ceasefire in their uprising against Israeli forces, described for them his recent summit with Ariel Sharon and George W. Bush.

During the tense talks at the summit, Bush sought to underscore the kind of authority he could bring to efforts at achieving peace in the Middle East. While thundering that there could be "no deals with terror groups," Bush sought to assure the rattled Palestinians that he also had the ability to wring concessions from Sharon. And what was the source of this wonder-working power? It was not, as you might think, the ungodly size of the U.S. military or the gargantuan amount of money and arms America pours into Israel year after year.

No, Bush said he derived his moral heft from the Almighty Himself. What's more, the Lord had proven his devotion to the Crawford Crusader by crowning his military efforts with success. In fact, he told Abbas, God was holding the door open for Middle East peace right now--but they would have to move fast, because soon the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe would have to give His attention to something far more important: the election of His little sunbeam, Georgie, in 2004.

Here are Bush's exact words, quoted by Haaretz: "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me, I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."


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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 10:37 PM
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21. This is priceless! n/t
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 08:16 PM
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17. I called Warner
I called Warner in the middle of his speel. I missed the "crusade" because I was too busy ranting. He is the stonewaller who is allowing Bush to skate by. We need to call everyday to at least two of them....1)WMD lies; 2)FCC ruling to give our airways away;3) environment gone to rack and ruin; 4) the lies about 9/11; 5) etcs. If you want to call the 800 number is 1-800-648-3516. Go on y'all. Make good use of it.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 08:34 PM
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18. I love the 800 number for Congress.
The crusade comment will be all over the Arab papers.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 08:45 PM
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20. I like reminding people of this
But at the time of the Senate Iraq Resolution vote, McCain refered to Warner, Liberman, himself and one other...(was it Edwards?) as The Four Horsemen.

Senate Watchers will back me up on that.
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