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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:22 PM
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Clinton recommends campaigning to the left to satisfy the base
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 10:32 PM by Woodstock
and other intersting things in the American Prospect article, as discussed on NPR's To the Point. The author says Clinton says campaigning now is different than when he was doing it, that we can afford to campaign more to the left. Reason? It used to be 45% Republicans, 40% Democrats, but now it's 45% Republicans, 45% Democrats. And they also talked about what showed here, the Washington Times got it 180 degrees wrong - when they thought Clinton was chiding Dean, he was actually chiding Lieberman (for claiming Dean was too far left.)

Real audio of the interview (it's first up & about 10 minutes long):
http://kcrw.com/cgi-bin/ram_wrap.cgi?/tp/tp031024The_2004_Democratic_
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:01 PM
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1. Sounds good to me. You never get all you want once you get in.
Well Bush did not run on what he is doing and he would have never got in if he let the people know what he planned.I am shocked he did the things he did but I did not really believe what he said when he ran. That congress just handed things to him is another shock, The GOP usually is not so free with spending. And who would have thought the Dem would give him war powers.The Dem turned out to be worse than the middle of the road GOP. For a while I was thinking we had only one party in congress.I think the Left should come back
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:04 PM
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2. Wow!!......Now he is talking business!!!!
I'm proud to be a libral if being a
24/7 criminal like the rethuglicans is the other choice to be!!!
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:07 PM
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3. Does Clinton think that all independents became dems?
I don't trust his math but I like the message.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:08 PM
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4. It's about time the Big Dog started educating the DLC....
I'm afraid it's too late....they've been bought and paid for like a bunch of cheap whores. Billy boy didn't realize a monster was created.

The whole group is full of repuke infiltrators, now, and McAuliffe is WAAAY to far to the right....and Bill appointed him.

Big Dog has some work cut out for him if he plans to bring the Dem power brokers back to their roots....they've started believing the media spin that they're too "liberal".


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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:23 PM
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6. There's nothing wrong with being a conservative Democrat!
The Democratic party has a big tent. We always support our nominee. I see no reason why that can't be the case in 04. If you are so rigid and refuse to change eventually you will break. We will eventually see that happen to the Republican party, unless they embrace the likes of Ahhhnold in California for more Republican spots in the rest of the country. We need to adapt, improvise, overcome to retake the country.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:58 PM
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7. Conservative Dems need to have some reasons for

being Dems, though. Otherwise, why not be Republicans? Where do you draw the line? What makes you a conservative Democrat?

After Bush* doing his Hoover act, we need a Dem who believes in FDR's style of government, and Dennis Kucinich is the Real Deal.

Harry Truman said that if the voters are given a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, they'll choose the Republican every time.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:09 PM
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5. Gosh....how strange
his cheerleading squad, here at DU says that a candidate persueing such an avenue would be unelectable....guess the "big dog" must be full of shit eh?

Gee I'd just love to hear the "we need to energize the moderate middle" crowds take on this.

Oops....I just read that it is claimed Dean is left leaning....hehehe yea whatever....I guess compared to Bush he is.


RC
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 01:26 AM
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10. Replete with feces
his cheerleading squad, here at DU says that a candidate persueing such an avenue would be unelectable....guess the "big dog" must be full of shit eh?

That's about the sum of it. Much has changed since 1992, but Clinton is still an idiot.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 12:22 AM
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8. It's not 1992 and the Big Dog is so brilliant that he knows that
we can't go w/ the way he campaigned in '92. Hello? Holy Joe? Are you listening? This is NOT 1992.

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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 12:33 AM
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9. TINFOIL HAT NEWS UPDATE: Does Clinton want (R) win in 2004?
Edited on Sat Oct-25-03 12:55 AM by Selwynn
How else will Hillary be set up to run in 2008?

They feel she'll be too old in 2012.

She is not set up to be anyone's VP, and if she was and a Democrat won, he'd be the encumbant in 2008, which doesn't help her.

Like I said, this is :tinfoilhat: not necessarily serious, but my father who really impressed me, mentioned this conspriacy theory to me and I had never thought of it. The powers that be don't WANT a Dem win in 2004, if not the DLC then at least the Clinton powers, because they want Hillary set up to run in 2008 above all else...

OOoooOOOOoooOOOOooooo (scary music) Think about it! (Or don't hehe)
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