John Malkovich wants George Galloway dead!

[number six]

OK. Apologies if this is already well known, but man, you should read it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/1967317.stm

[soleft]

1. another guy he wants dead? He wants Robert Fisk dead too

Speaking of Fisk, where is he?

[wuushew]

2. Malkovich is a right winger?

I thought he lived in France?

[number six]

3. As I understand it,

Malkovich has very strong pro-Israeli views. To say the least, Galloway couldn't be more pro-arab. This is a guy that had the PLO flag flown from Dundee City Hall when he was leader of Dundee Council. This annoys Malkovich somewhat.

[wuushew]

7. Any ideas why he hates Robert Fisk?

I did a quick google search on him and turned up mainly anti-war articles against Bush.

Is Malkovich pro-war on Iraq?

[number six]

8. Here's Fisk's retort from Counterpunch

http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk0513.html

[bicentennial_baby]

24. That's weird...

"But the e-mails that poured into The Independent over the next few days bordered on the inflammatory. The attacks on America were caused by "hate itself, of precisely the obsessive and dehumanising kind that Fisk and Bin Laden have been spreading," said a letter from a Professor Judea Pearl of UCLA. I was, he claimed, "drooling venom" and a professional "hate peddler"


That's Daniel Pearl's father. Weird. :shrug:

[Zuni]

13. Fisk is very arabist

I think malkovich is a strong supporter of Israel--he might be jewish or part jewish, and the extreme anti-israeli sympathies of left wing british arabists may seem anti-semetic. George Galloway, to me, is very anti semetic

[Terwilliger]

31. OH?

What did he say that was anti-semitic???

[Classical_Liberal]

4. Labor smeared Galloway good

misquoting him at every opportunity.

[w13rd0]

5. Dissappointing...

...I like Malkovich, and that other guy, cripes, played the bad guy in 5th Element. Both are RW...pfft...

[robsul82]

6. But he was Teddy KGB!

...in Rounders! "He beet me. Strat-up. Pay dat man heeees mahnee."

Later.

RJS

[shance]

9. I didnt know Malkcovich was a hateful extremist

I always knew he was pretty strange, and a good actor, maybe he wasnt acting after all!

Heres another one I dont understand.

Why would he hate someone like Galloway who is simply trying to defend defenseless people. Is it a hate the victim mentality?

Or some type of bullying/white supremist thought process going on?

[number six]

10. Personally I reckon

it's a stupid outburst that he must regret now. He's an actor. There's a good reason why we shouldn't listen to their political views. Either that, or he's the worst kind of wanker.
My wife still loves him, though.

[Zuni]

12. Hateful extremist?

I wouldn't say that. galloway is a pretty sleazy charecter and a bit extreme in his Arabism and anti-Israelism.
It is not a white supremacy thing. It is probably sympathy for jews, he may have jews friends or family.

[reachout]

11. Good actor...

..total nut job. Sometimes really good actors are right out on the edge mentally and emotionally.

I've read interviews with people like Gary Sinese, who worked with Malkovich for many years on stage and screen, and some of the stories told about JM lead me to believe he's few cards shy of a deck.

[Zuni]

14. George Galloway is an anti-Semite

He is an Arabist extremist. He makes speeches calling for the conquering of jerusalem and other stuff that make him sound like one of those Arab extremists.

[Sesquipedalian]

15. yadda, yadda..

He kidnaps Jewish children at Christmas to offer their blood for Santa Clause to drink no doubt :eyes:

Not that I expect any real meat behind charges of anti-semitism anymore, but it's really depressing to watch.

[Zuni]

16. Have you ever read some of the speeches he gives at Arabist rallies

He can barely contain his venom

[Sesquipedalian]

20. yes..

I've also read baseless smear after baseless smear about him going back to the seventies.

[thebigidea]

33. where did this "Arabist" thing come from?

What the hell is an "Arabist rally" - I've never heard that term before.

[wuushew]

19. technically Arabs are semites, therefore he can't be anti-semitic

anti-jewish or anti-zionist perhaps

[Blitz]

29. God, but that's a tired old line

Anti-semitic and anti-semitism refers ONLY to the hatred and/or persecution of Jews. While certain non-Jewish groups are semitic, the terms anti-semitic and anti-semitism do not apply or refer to them. Let me repeat what I had posted in another thread (which was originally written, in part, by a poster on another site):

The word "anti-Semite" was coined by a German Jew hater named Wilhelm Marr in 1879, because he percieved that the term "Judenhass" was not genteel. It was vulgar. At the time, racial Darwinism was all the rage, and the use of "semite" in place of Jew made the term sound vaguely scientific:

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t049/t04906.html

If you look in any reputable dictionary at all, you will see that the term refers specifically to Jew-hatred:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

http://www.bartleby.com/61/91/A0349100.html

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=3203&dict=CALD

Various anti-Jewish and anti-Israel groups have been trying to co-opt this term for about two generations but, unfortunately for them, pesky things like facts keep getting in the way.

[wuushew]

30. But Jews and Arabs agree it is not a good label

Opposition to the loose anti-semitic branding may be catching: "Let's choose our words more carefully, like calling violence or discrimination against Jews, "anti-Jewish," acknowledging that our Arab brothers and sisters are Semities too. May the cross-cultural exchanges continue and grow" (JULIE CHASEN, Jewish Bulletin).

Firas Al-Atraqchi is a Muslim Canadian journalist living on the Pacific Coast.




http://www.mediamonitors.net/firasalatraqchi11.html

[number six]

21. I don't doubt that Galloway is a little nuts

but that in no way excuses Malkovich for his ridiculous outburst. As far as I know, Galloway is excessively pro-Palestinian (married to one), but I've never seen anything that made me think he was an anti-semite. If you can find anything, it would help my understanding of this deeply strange man.

[shance]

25. Man, what is UP with the anti-semite stuff lately?

Is it now anti-Semitic to tell the truth and/or want to know the truth?

Is it anti-Semitic to want peace?

Is it anti-Semitic "squared" for Jews who want this as well, because I know quite a few that want the same thing.

Fundamentalism is the same here in the United States, as it is in Israel, as it is anywhere in the world.

Its extremism. Period.

This reminds me of any fundamentalist train of thought.

Im either patriotic, or a traitor, an innie or an outie.....you name it.....its all the same.

its this us against them mentality.

All brewed by healthy ingredients of fear and isolation and superiority.

[Terwilliger]

32. what label do we put on Jews that hate arabs?

anti-semite? Nazi? which?

[Aidoneus]

17. he also wants Robert Fisk dead

good actor on the one hand, Zionist fanatic on the other.

[Elidor]

18. Here's the death match I'd like to see:

Malkovich and Vanessa Redgrave! Two extremist freaks on opposite sides of the ME issue. My money's on Redgrave.

[Cha]

22. john malkovich just got on my Shytte list!

Fu*k him.

[JanMichael]

23. Regardless of his personal views it was an awfully stupid thing to say.

Really. Just stupid. Shouldn't surprise us though. Most of the people with a dog in the ME fight, yet aren't actually from there or have even been there, are inflexible nutters.

[Selwynn]

26. Can I call you Vincent? :D (nt)

[JanMichael]

27. Van Gogh or Donofrio?

The suspence is killing me...I may have to cut off an ear...

[stickdog]

28. Well, I guess I wouldn't want to be him after all. (NT)

[Bertha Venation]

34. So what?

The world is full of assholes who don't keep their uglier, even threatening, opinions to themselves. It doesn't make them radical hateful right-wingers.

Are we now going to "boycott" John Malkovich the way freepers "boycott" Susan Sarandon? Give me a break.

If John Malkovich kills someone, then we'll talk.