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JewelDigger Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:23 PM
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THREE dead marines who rescued Jessica Lynch?
Did anyone else spot this?:

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/dmtapper.htm

<snip>

The Department of Defense announced today that Petty Officer First Class David M. Tapper, 32, of Camden County, New Jersey, died of wounds received in action August 20, 2003 in Afghanistan.

Often called upon to conduct the most harrowing missions, Tapper took part in the April rescue of wounded POW Jessica Lynch, then helped recover the bodies of nine American soldiers buried near the Iraqi hospital where she was held, according to friends and the Tapper family.

<snip>

But, duty called again last month, this time sending him to Afghanistan, where an increasingly overlooked and vastly dangerous mission to rout the Taliban and al-Qaeda terrorists grinds on.

Tapper, 32, died there Wednesday while conducting combat operations in a lawless province near the Pakistani border - an area where the military believes the terrorists are operating.

Friends here said Tapper was shot in the back during an ambush. He died later at a hospital at Bagram Air Base, the Navy said.

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:25 PM
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1. OK this is FRIGHTENING!
I don't know about you guys but this is not right!
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:25 PM
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2. Hmmmmm How Would one get shot in the back
kinda fishy
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:52 PM
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35. Looks like he was shot by one of the Afghans he was with
It also sounds like Afghanistan is going downhill pretty fast.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:26 PM
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3. "Shot in the back during an ambush"
All neat and tidy like...
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:27 PM
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4. OMG.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:28 PM
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5. WOW
:wow:
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:29 PM
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6. Is it possible to obtain a list of those involved in the rescue?
This is one of two things:

Bizarre and sad coincidence.

Cover-up
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:35 PM
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12. uh
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 01:15 AM
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47. hey dont use it all up!
I just ran out today!

all I was able to get was

:tin

DOH!

TWL
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:31 PM
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7. Scary stuff!!!!
What is going on here?
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:32 PM
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8. Okay. Who are the others? Notify them and their families.
This reminds my of something I heard a detective say about people who have had infants die in their care.

One was tragic.

Two was suspiscious.

Three is murder.

:mad:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:33 PM
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9. Now there are three
This si just like the end of that movie "GoodFellas".

You think the others are ready to shut their stinking pie-holes NOW?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:33 PM
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10. uh oh
Shot in the back? Yipes. This is one scary cover-up they've got going.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:34 PM
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I know about the one shot in his driveway,
but can someone point me to the story about the other one?

Thanks.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:27 PM
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27. The Other Drove Into A Tree
I think...
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:34 PM
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11. How many more??????????????/
who are the other families involved with sons or daughters who were involved in the Lynch "rescue"??
why isnt anyone picking up on this??
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:38 PM
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13. We thought it was Weird when two of them had died
especially that one who was ambushed and killed with gunfire ...was it by his home?
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:18 PM
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17. Right, I thought two was plausible.
But three is definitely time to be concerned. :scared:
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criticalmass Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:39 PM
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14. The other two names and links
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:44 PM
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16. Thanks! That is really Sad! Wonder who did it?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:55 PM
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36. BFEE did it to cover their
lies!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:40 PM
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15. This thread has links:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:23 PM
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18. I called my local paper...I suggest all of you alert them to this.
.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:24 PM
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19. thanks for putting it together
the BFEE are 100% evil, 100% corrupt, and will do ANYTHING.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:26 PM
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20. You know what this is beginning to remind me of?
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 06:28 PM by Minstrel Boy
The rash of murder/suicides at Fort Bragg among special forces troops after the farcical "battle" of Tora Bora.

Here's an archived article from the Fayetteville Observer, and the words of an anonymous special forces officer describing how bin Laden was allowed to escape:

"Special Forces soldiers saw two Russian-made helicopters fly into the area where bin Laden was believed to be, load up passengers and fly toward Pakistan.

"'I said, "There he goes,"' the soldier said."
http://www.cooperativeresearch.net/timeline/2002/fayett...

Shortly after the special forces returned to Fort Bragg, I believe there was a string of troops killing their wives and killing themselves. Four incidents happening in quick succession, I think.

Post-traumatic stress? Or did they see something they shouldn't have, and were talking about it?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:30 PM
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21. Thanks for posting that link!
I lost the story about the Russsian-made helicopters in Tora Bora.

:tinfoilhat:
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:40 PM
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23. dammit, I forgot about THAT!
these assholes keep us too busy with their constant barrage of insanity!!

it's going to take YEARS for the truth to come out about this.. and I'm having a hard time avoiding the idea that these devils are KILLING OUR OWN TROOPS to cover their lies...

but then again, I am a firm LIHOP, so I put nothing past these ghouls
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:45 PM
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32. Anti-malaria drug Lariam was one theory at the time
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 10:52 PM by lostnfound
because 'it's known for producing psychotic episodes' but I think the investigation concluding it was simply coincidence and stress.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:30 PM
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22. Where is our resident statistic's guru, TIA?
wonder what the probability of 3 deaths are...and what 4 will be.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:15 PM
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24. WTF??
:wtf:

How many more where in that "rescue group"? We should make a list and keep an eye on them.
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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:50 PM
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34. I'd like to know that too
It'd be interesting to figure out the odds that way.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:15 PM
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25. kick
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:20 PM
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26. Here they all are together in one post
(1)

LONG BEACH, California (AP) -- A Marine who helped in the rescue of Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch in Iraq was shot to death at a family barbecue, just 12 days before he was to be discharged.

Lance Cpl. Sok Khak Ung, 22, and a family friend, Vouthy Tho, 21, were killed early Sunday in a garage at a Long Beach home by a gunman who fired six to eight shots before fleeing, police said. www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/...marine.ap/

(2)

The Department of Defense announced today that Petty Officer First Class David M. Tapper, 32, of Camden County, New Jersey, died of wounds received in action August 20, 2003 in Afghanistan.

Often called upon to conduct the most harrowing missions, Tapper took part in the April rescue of wounded POW Jessica Lynch, then helped recover the bodies of nine American soldiers buried near the Iraqi hospital where she was held, according to friends and the Tapper family. www.arlingtoncemetery.net/dmtapper.htm


(3)

GREENVILLE, S.C., July 7, 2003vv(AP) A U.S. Marine who was part of the unit that helped rescue Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch died in a car crash on his first weekend home since returning from Iraq.

Josh Speer was killed when his car veered off the road in Greenville County, S.C., overturned several times and ran into a tree at about 8 a.m. Sunday morning. The 21-year-old soldier was heading to see his fiancee. www.cbsnews.com/stories/2...2365.shtml
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:29 PM
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28. But Who Could Take The Order To Kill A Fellow Soldier?
It is too grotesque to imagine...
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:49 PM
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33. The assassins are probably not soldiers.
This is too much...too much
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:38 PM
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30. This is really creepy.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:31 PM
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29. Here's confirmation from 9/02/03 on FR:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/974485/posts

"I wonder how much of that million Lynch will give the family of David Tapper, one of the SEAL team members responsible for her rescue who was killed in Afghanistan. A Bronze Star and a million bucks for what? A private who got captured because of incompetence??? And how many Special Forces and Marine Corps personnel's lives were endangered rescuing her and her fellow unit members because of their screw up? Giving her a Bronze Star was laughable and an insult to all who have received the medal for their bravery in combat. She and her fellow unit members should have received a Bronze Dunce Cap!"

This was in combat though. Kinda different....seems a plausible explanation...certainly Akham's Razor would say he was killed in an ambush, got shot in the back....
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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:04 AM
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41. snarf
"akham's" razor...wow these guys are impressive.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 02:59 PM
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50. Occam's Razor
n/t
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:40 PM
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31. this makes me feel dirty.
What a world we live in, when I was little I thought the monsters lived under my bed, I was wrong they live in D.C.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:57 PM
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37. This is real similar to the Microbiologists that died
right after 9/11 what was is something like 15 or 16?
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:59 PM
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38. This is freaky...!!!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:03 AM
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39. I can't believe the shit
that is going on in this country, and they ARE getting away with it.
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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:06 AM
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43. ok,
officially scared now. run off the road, shot by gunman, shot in the back of the head...are we missing anyone around here these days?
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:59 AM
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40. ki8ck
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:05 AM
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42. They sure love doing preemptive strikes, those BFEE wet boys.
Heard some TV promos for the Jessica Lynch rescue movie. Perhaps they want no dissenting voices when the sheep get all worked up about how heroic everything was/is. Can't have real, live vets who might just be lose cannons hell bent on telling the truth.
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:17 AM
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44. picture of him
click http://www.nablc.navy.mil/html/seal_dead3.html picture is too big just to put in thread .
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JewelDigger Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 01:10 AM
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46. WAIT!
....just read what you posted more closely. What does this mean:

The Department of Defense has confirmed that Navy Photographers Mate 1st Class Petty Officer

What sort of work would he have done?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:19 AM
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45. been trying to bring attention to this for a month...scary shit...thanks
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 02:21 PM
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48. How "IN YOUR FACE"
does the sickness and corruption of the *misadministration have to get before the American people scream in unison "FULL STOP" and put their power behind that declaration? One I was willing to accept as a tragic accident. Two started my stomach churning, but THREE??? Nothing like death to insure that the details of the Pentagon's made-for-TV "feel good" propaganda is never challenged by a participant.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 02:24 PM
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49. Another Lynch rescuer died in a car accident in his home town.
Something stinks.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 08:56 PM
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51. kick
what are the odds of three men from that "rescue" dying in such disparate circumstances? I would really like a statistician to figure them out.
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