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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:51 AM
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Well, here's a tasty bit of good news...
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/12/26/nh_republicans_drift_from_national_party/?page=1

N.H. Republicans drift from national party

Delegation breaks on major issues

By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | December 26, 2005

WASHINGTON -- With signs pointing to a resurgent Democratic Party in New Hampshire, the state's all-Republican congressional delegation is becoming increasingly at odds with the national Republican Party in a state that was long a GOP bellwether, according to an analysis of votes and other actions in Congress over the past year.

Congressmen Jeb Bradley and Charles Bass voted for expanded stem cell research and opposed drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, and Bradley notably declined to endorse Bush's Social Security plan.

Senator John E. Sununu opposed Bush's plan for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, joined a filibuster to insert civil liberties protections into the USA Patriot Act, and voted against his party leadership on several major spending bills.

Even the state's senior senator, Judd Gregg, who is a member of the GOP leadership and generally backs the party's priorities, voted against the transportation bill and the massive energy bill that grew out of Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force.

The senators and congressmen say they are acting in the tradition of the state's libertarian brand of conservatism, even if the national GOP moves in a different direction. But Democrats and some independent observers, pointing to the fact that Senator John F. Kerry beat President Bush in New Hampshire, and that Governor John Lynch , a Democrat, is the most popular official in the state, say the Republican senators and congressmen are trying to distance themselves from an increasingly unpopular national GOP.

...take back the House, take back the Senate, one goddam seat at a time...
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:53 AM
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1. Thanks for the good news...
needed that today!

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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:00 AM
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2. Well that is wonderful news. n/t
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:01 AM
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3. That's what it's going to take.
Moderate republicans are going to have to clean house from within and take back control of their party. My republican mother saw this coming years ago when the right wing gained control of the party in Texas. However, they sold out in order to finally elect republicans to statewide office and gain control of the Texas House and Senate. She'll never admit that they've screwed up but maybe younger people will figure it out and do something about it. :shrug:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:20 AM
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6. I guess I'm missing something
Moderate Republicans are still Republicans, and they still help create a Republican majority. Personally I don't want to see particular republicans being more moderate in order to help them get elected. I don't want Republicans to get elected, moderate or not. Individual votes don't matter one tenth as much as having control of the body. I would rather have a right wing Democrat (assuming there weren't enough of them to effect policy) that caucused with us than a liberal Republican that voted for Dennis Hastert as Speaker and gave them control of committees.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:28 AM
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7. I'd rather have moderate to liberal Democrats in the majority
but I'm not holding my breath.

My point is that there are a lot of Republicans who are not happy with some of the outcomes of their majority but they are to blame for getting into bed with these right-wing wackjobs. There will always be opposing views but I'd rather be fighting against an opposition with whom I respectfully disagree, not an opposition that turns my stomach.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:02 AM
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4. Fantastic!
:thumbsup:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:08 AM
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5. Fabulous news
Every day we just keep getting more good news.

They are disintegrating right before our eyes. Yippee.
:bounce:
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:47 AM
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8. The GOP is in a civil war.
I'm not too surprised by this news, I've been seeing it coming for a while based on comments made by Repubs I know and talk to. The GOP rank and file is absolutely unhappy with the squandered opportunity that the GOP had with control of the WH, the House and the Senate. They are sick to death of the lockstep GOP gait and the partisan bickering.

Deficit spending is looming huge, the war is not terribly popular and outsourcing is pissing off people. If it holds true to what I'm seeing here in Illinois, there is a big rift forming nationally between the fundie wing, the normal Republicans and the Neo-cons. I think the average Republicans are getting about ready to rise up and re-assert themselves.

IF the DNC is smart, they'll get to work talking about how the Dems are different and how we ARE abe to work with everyone.



Laura
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:18 PM
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9. Faster, faster, faster - before they launch rockets at Iran,
before they renew the Patriot Act, before they pass the Reverse Robin Hood budget --

:mad:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:20 PM
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10. They won't launch rockets at Iran
China just signed a zillion-dollar oil deal with Iran, to supply China with much-needed petroleum to feed its booming economy.

If we bomb Iran, we invite war with China.

Since China owns our debt, and since we cannot handle a war with them, we will not bom Iran.
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spun_in_montana Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:27 PM
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11. Well put Mr. Pitt
In a discussion over the weekend with an avowed AIPAC'er, he stated that war with Iran is a natural progression in the WOT...
I asked what was so "natural" about war? And was he aware of the Chinese influence and yuans that are now percolating through Iran's coffer's?
And what Iran's ties to China really mean?
To invite Chinese ire is not in our best interests.
And to bomb Iran is just silly.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:23 PM
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19. Hi spun_in_montana!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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spun_in_montana Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:41 PM
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21. Thanks for the hearty welcome!
Three year lurker, short time poster...my blog was on blogbox a few Fridays ago so I got up the nerve! :)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:32 PM
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12. It seems to me like we are standing on the edge of
attack. Bush's Nuclear Policy (2000) stated that he wanted "new, more usable nuclear weapons" and they have been stockpiling a variety of weapons in Iraq (according to a veteran interviewed in my local college newspaper) - possibly including the new nuclear weapons.

A sane administration would recognize that "If we bomb Iran, we invite war with China." This administration is not sane.

Have you watched "The Power of Nightmares" - The interviews with the neocons, circa 1970's-1980's are amazing. Their logic, "We believed that the Soviets had this particular weapon system, but we couldn't find any evidence they had it, and we couldn't find any evidence of a program to keep them secret, so that is how we *knew* they had them." Not sane. Not back then. Worse now.
<http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_september11.htm>

"If in the first act you introduce a gun, by the third act you have to use it." - Anton Chekhov
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:35 PM
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13. How, then, do you explain
two events in the last few years:

The collision between our plane and China's plane, during which Bush bowed and scraped and kowtowed to China;

China's passage of their We-will-invade-Taiwan-whenever-we-damned-well-please law, and Bush's wimpy non-response.

They may not be sane, but they are indeed bullies. Bullies tend to back down in the face of bigger, stronger bullies. China has our nuts in a vice. The bullies in this admin know it.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:27 PM
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18. Why is US briefing allies & soldiers about Iran invasion?
My son says get ready to invade Iran: I spoke with my son just now(he's in Germany),and he said that they are briefing some of his friends about Iran.
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5686585#5686598>

Speculations over US attack against Iran
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5686585#5686637>
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5686585#5687168>

AIPAC has just sent a letter to Bush on the Iranian issue...
They believe he is not being agressive enough. <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5686585#5686796>

Israel is planning to bomb Iran's nuke facilities:
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5689976#5690057>
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:17 PM
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16. Why should that stop the religious insane radical right?
There are people in power who want Armageddon. That's why they don't give a shit about anything. Once they fulfill their biblical fantasies they'll be in paradise.

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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:54 PM
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20. The "Mafia Model": It's bad for business.
We'll break some knee-caps and cut off some fingers, but we won't piss the other "gangs" off too badly, because in the end, it's bad for business. And that's what really counts.

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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:05 PM
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14. I hope the conservative GOP doesn't take this lying down
Punish the apostates! C'mon Karl, you know how to punish disloyalty!;-)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:10 PM
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15. Is everybody ready to take our nation back??
Dem Victory 2006!!

NGU.


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