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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:49 AM
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Remember Poindexter/The Pentagon and Total Information Awareness Program
After people made a big deal about about it, it was supposedly suspended. Perhaps this snoopgate on Americans is poindexter's little baby come to fruition....

http://www.computerbytesman.com/tia/index.htm



John M. Poindexter Education Ph.D., Physics, California Institute of Technology, 1964 M.S., Physics, California Institute of Technology, 1961 B.S., Engineering, U.S. Naval Academy, 1958 Experience Summary Brings a unique blend of experience to problems from the highest levels of government to the laboratory. Demonstrated exceptional management and command ability ranging from naval operations to the national security of the United States. Noted for creative solutions to difficult issues and ability to quickly grasp the essence of new tasks. Goal oriented. Professional Background DARPA Information Awareness Office, Director 2002 - Present

The mission of the Information Awareness Office (IAO) is to imagine, develop, apply, integrate, demonstrate and transition information technologies, components, and prototype closed-loop information systems that will counter asymmetric threats (most notably, terrorist threats) by achieving total information awareness: enabling preemption; national security warning; and, national security decision making.

SYNTEK Technologies, Senior Vice President 1996 - 2002 SYNTEK is a small high technology firm with contracts in domestic and international defense and commercial business. Poindexter was responsible for high-level advice on management and direction of information systems projects (for example Defense Advanced Research Project Agency's Project Genoa).

TP Systems, Inc., Co-founder 1990 - 1996 TP Systems was a software development firm specializing in commercial software for the IBM PC's and compatibles. Poindexter was the chief designer and programmer. Development included a symbolic debugger for multi-tasking environments, a BBS communications program plus numerous utility programs.

Elkins Group, Consultant 1993 - 1996 Elkins was a business alliance with Electronic Data Systems (EDS), has developed Elkins Interactive Training Network (EITN), a satellite based training delivery system that has world-wide marketing potential. Poindexter was the Chairman of the Maritime Advisory Committee and a member of the Board of Directors. He also provided advice on strategic planning. Presearch, Inc.,

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:51 AM
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1. That would explain why Rockefeller referenced TIA in his letter
Even in his limited briefing, the bones of that program were recognizable.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:54 AM
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2. One way or another these criminals would have stooped to spying on
everyone regardless. It hardly matters, it was (is) just natural for people who have no morals, integrity, decency, or respect for the Constitution of United States of America. (A document, along with the Declaration of Independence, that was written and signed by people of whom these thugs are unworthy to lick their shoes.)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:57 AM
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3. You're right. I remember that everyone here said as much, at the time.
We knew the IAO would only go off the radar and continue unimpeded in some form or another. And now we see what that was.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:00 AM
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6. yes I remember and Poindexter's bio was pulled
and he went off the radar. We all knew he wouldn't be stopped.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:58 AM
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4. My thoughts exactly
Why bother with a grueling political battle when you can get the info anyway by breaking the law undercover?
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:59 AM
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5. I still think
the Luddites were onto something.

http://www.io.com/~wazmo/luddite.html

http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/dod/poindexter.html

Remarks as prepared for delivery by Dr. John Poindexter, Director, Information Awareness Office of DARPA, at DARPATech 2002 Conference, Anaheim, Calif., August 2, 2002

The world has changed dramatically since the Cold War when there existed two super powers. During the years I was in the White House it was relatively simple to identify our intelligence collection targets. It was sometimes hard to collect the intelligence, but the targets were clear. Today, we are in a world of asymmetries. The most serious asymmetric threat facing the United States is terrorism, a threat characterized by collections of people loosely organized in shadowy networks that are difficult to identify and define and whose goals are the destruction of our way of life. The intelligence collection targets are thousands of people whose identities and whereabouts we do not always know. It is somewhat analogous to the anti-submarine warfare problem of finding submarines in an ocean of noise - we must find the terrorists in a world of noise, understand what they are planning, and develop options for preventing their attacks. If we are to preserve our national security, we must figure out a way of combating this threat.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:02 AM
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7. DARPA n/t
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:30 AM
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8. Remember the TIA ad that came out right after 9/11?
It was circulating around the internet....it showed an average American street and every house was sporting an American flag, something very common right after 9/11. Anyway, the camera stopped and focused on a house that didn't have an American flag and the question was asked, "what's wrong with this picture?" The point was, be suspicious of your neighbors and turn them in if there's any chance they could be terrorists...and I guess if you didn't fly an American flag, you could be an enemy of the country. Very Hitleresque.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:23 AM
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9. yes I remember that
very scary indeed for me personally because I fly this flag...

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