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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:17 AM
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NEW EVIDENCE Computer Hackers Could Change Election Results
Elections Official: Some Voting Machines Could Be Hacked

POSTED: 12:17 pm EST December 15, 2005
UPDATED: 7:44 pm EST December 15, 2005


Voting machines used in four Central Florida counties might be flawed.

There's new evidence that computer hackers could change election results without anyone knowing about it, WESH 2 News reported.

The supervisor of elections in Tallahassee tested voting machines several times over the last several months, and on Monday, his workers were able to hack into a voting machine and change the outcome. He said that same thing might have happened in Volusia County in 2000.

The big controversy revolves around a little black computer card that is smaller than a floppy disk and bigger than a flash drive. The card is inserted into voting machines that scan paper ballots. The card serves as the machine's electronic brain.


But when Ion Sancho, Leon County's Supervisor of Elections, tested the Diebold system and allowed experts to manipulate the card electronically, he could change the outcome of a mock election without leaving any kind of trail. In other words, someone could fix an election and no one would know.
http://www.wesh.com/news/5542983/detail.html
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:18 AM
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1. Diebold - BUSTED!
Edited on Fri Dec-16-05 07:19 AM by ck4829
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:29 AM
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2. "computer hackers"
Seems slightly deceptive to point at "hackers"
Yeah I know, technically it's correct
But so is "republican political operative" :-)
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don garb Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:35 AM
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3. "could?" and "might?"
Combine this with the SEVERAL published scientific papers written by Ph.d statistical scientists, that PROVE the '04 election numbers were a fraud, and you have a busy week ahead for Repukelickan shills, defenders and apologists.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:32 AM
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4. Kick
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:33 AM
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5. Die! diebold you election wrecker!
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:48 AM
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6. MORE LINKS HERE
ELECTIONS
New tests fuel doubts about vote machines (Miami Herald)

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/1341006 ...

Elections Official: Some Voting Machines Could Be Hacked (WESH Central Florida)

http://www.wesh.com/news/5542983/detail.html

Elections Supervisor: Some Diebold Voting Machines Can Be Hacked (WFTV Florida)

http://www.wftv.com/news/5541739/detail.html

County says electronic voting machines can be hacked (USA Today AP)
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-12-15-opticalv ...


ADD THEM IF YOU FIND THEM!
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:52 AM
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7. We knew it all the time.



But they were told to not listen.


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chrisau214 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:45 AM
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8. I'm not concerned with the possibility of hackers changing results
I'm concerned that the very source code is used to divert votes from one candidate to another. It really is as simple as:

If vote = Kerry
then vote = Bush

If the source code is not reviewable then the coders don't even need to try to hide what is going on. It's flagrant and it is unbelievable that it is tolerated.


Chris
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:00 AM
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10. == ! =
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:29 AM
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9. KICK!!!!!!
:kick:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 12:15 PM
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11. The media picking up on this is KEY to change.
Woo hoo!
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 12:57 PM
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12. We need to BE THE MEDIA!!!
So with that in mind let's all get busy. We can join the D.U. activist group or create a group of our own. Check out the activist site called the Democracy Cell Project.

Media reform and election reform are two key parts of our mission statement.

http://www.democracycellproject.net
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:07 PM
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13. Yes indeed. I have a media email list that I send info like this to on my
own. It also helps if we notify our reps.

:hi:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:24 PM
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14. Didn't someone post that the military had kids hacking for them ?
Someone remember that story ?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:22 PM
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15. Duh.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:38 PM
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16. Replacing Diebold defenders: tilting the conversation positive by
making the alternative either staying with people who won't defend transparent elections (Diebold defending public servants), and those who believe that transparent elections are a necessary precondition to the very notion of democratic elections.

Take a look at GuvWorld's work on this:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...



:thumbsup:
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