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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:49 AM
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Do you think Bush's Operation Candor is going to work?
Not that it really is candor, but I heard one reporter call it "operation candor"--what Bush has been trying to do lately to get his credibility numbers up. First he admits that 30,000 Iraqi's have been killed (of course far more than that number have been killed). Then he finally admits that the intelligence which led to the war was faulty.

So now the question is--Will this help Bush? He obviously is doing these things on the advice of his political team (Rove) to gain ground in the polls and restore his badly damaged credibility.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:51 AM
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1. Only with the delusional
who still think he's the Second Coming. Everyone else looks at what he says with skepticism.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:52 AM
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2. It's four years too late
He no longer has any credibility outside of his base of wealthy donors and working-class freepers and ditto-heads.

It won't help.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:52 AM
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3. With a sycophant press, anything is possible,
especially when your opposition is split.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:53 AM
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4. No, because he's refusing to accept responsibility for anything...
"Yeah, I lied you into war, but it was the right thing to do. I may have been imcompetent. I may have been deceitful. but the ends justify the means. Terra-ists. 9-11. fight 'em there...
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:53 AM
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5. He might pick up a point or two, but I think most will see it
as to little to late. I think most have written him off.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:54 AM
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6. Isn't it obvious Bush is only "candid" on facts US has known for a year
or more?

How candid is it to for a man to admit robbing a bank when he's covered with the contents of a dye packet and caught with marked bills?

"Okay", says the dyed red crook. "Somebody has made a mistake. And I'm going to find out who, not that it makes any difference as to the original plan. I'm just being honest and forthright."

It's a modified limited hangout, as Haldeman said.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:56 AM
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7. I think it makes him look like an even bigger liar.
He staunchly defended the pre-war "intelligence" so adamantly that an admission now that it was "faulty" makes him seem even more "doofilicious".

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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:59 AM
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8. Candor, from *, what a fucking joke.
Lie one 30,000 Iraqi's dead. More like 50,000 - 100,000.
Lie two Intel was faulty. Intel was made up.

This may help with the terminally stupid (his base)
but not with the majority.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:59 AM
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9. I think some here forget
they are ahead of the curve as far as knowing what's going on. Millions in this country have no clue. Keep that in mind when assessing things.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:09 PM
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10. Well most people
reach the same conclusion as the president did... 3 years ago, a year ago, 6 months ago. So I'm betting being way behind the eight ball isn't helping.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:19 PM
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11. He has the advantage of a lackey media and a complicit Opposition
Party. The American people know he's full of crap, but whose going to turn their understanding into a political challenge? Stay the course. See the war crimes to fruition until Democracy flowers forth all over the world etc.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:40 PM
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12. Lie to us! Lie to us!
Please, please! The old lies don't work anymore! Tell us new ones!

Old, white, Conservative male America badly needs Operation Candor. The powers that be manipulate us with fear and ignorance, and these guys need something, ANYTHING, to help them believe they're not going to lose their place in line.

And the Neocons are laughing all the way to the bank.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:47 PM
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13. The only people who will believe Bush are the ones who have
always believed him. I doubt that he has convinced anyone else that he knows how to tell the truth.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:53 PM
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14. Crying wolf too many times comes to my mind.
After listening to lies, obfuscation and downright incoherent dribble for the last five years, nothing he says from now on will seem credible even if he is finally telling the truth, which he's not.

Even in this mea culpa he had to lie about the number of Iraqis killed. Wouldn't it have been better if he said no one really knows, however, there have been estimates of a hundred thousand or more?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:04 PM
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15. Only in the short term. We still have the Plame case, Frist, Delay,
Abramoff, Cunningham, torture, and a host of other issues that can derail him.

Every uptick of approval is followed by a long slow drop.

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