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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:41 AM
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Who watches Fox News? This is who...
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 11:43 AM by TwoSparkles
I was getting a towel at the YMCA front desk, and chatting with a friend, before I hopped on the treadmill.

A woman, probably in her late '50s, abruptly walked up to the desk and began tapping her fake fingernails on the counter.

The woman was dressed in a forest green track suit with gold trim---and navy blue Nikes. Her salt-and-pepper, tightly-permed hair overpowered her head, which sported a large pair of black-framed glasses. She was also chewing and cracking a very large wad of gum, and she reeked of cheap perfume.

"Can I help you?" said the YMCA assistant behind the counter.

"Yes. You can," said the woman. "I want to change the television station. You've got seven televisions in there, and not one has Fox News. Do I have to listen to the liberal media all day long? I can't take it. I just can't stand that CNN. That Wolf Blitzer hates all Republicans."

The assistant told the woman that the channels were fixed--on the major networks, CSPAN, CNN and a couple of ESPN channels--to give everyone plenty of choices.

The woman snapped back, flailing her dark maroon nails in the air, "But that's all liberal! They don't give me the real news, like I get on Fox (lots of gum cracking here). I come here to relax and I can't relax when I'm surrounded by television sets full of people who hate America and Christmas."

The assistant behind the counter suggested that the woman write her concerns on a slip of paper and put them in the suggestion box.

I'd like to say that I said something witty or intelligent. I was so stunned by this creature, that I was at a loss for words.

Hello America--these are the people who voted for George Bush. This woman (her husband, her offspring and her friends) are dictating our foreign, domestic and environmental policies--as well and shaping the future for our children. No wonder so many people believe that there is a connection between Sept 11 and Iraq. No wonder Rove's marketeering works so well. No wonder Rush Limbaugh is so popular. No wonder people believe "We're turning a corner" and "We're making progress" and "We must fight the terrorists there so we don't have to fight them here."

No wonder.

The USA is being run by a bunch of George-Bush-following ingrates who--up until Junior was elected--were dismissed as nut jobs. They used to hide in their houses and they had some sense of shame. Now they feel validated and empowered. Now, they're sauntering around local YMCAs with a sense of entitlement.

They're clutching onto this newfound acceptance with their fake nails--and they're not letting go.

I have seen the enemy--and it is wearing a green and shiny gold track suit.



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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:43 AM
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1. this is very funny
oh wait, maybe it is sad. I guess it is both - funny sad.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:41 PM
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52. I always tell myself
if I'm not laughing I'm crying and banging my head.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 09:36 AM
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83. It would make an excellent movie scene.
You might consider shopping it around.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:46 AM
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2. She redefines "bushbot" to new sleazy depths. What a grade-A cretin.
Sadly, she's like a lot of Americans.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:48 AM
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3. Not always like that
I went to the Shoreview, MN community center one night and besides ESPN, there was nothing ELSE for news BUT Faux News on the TVs.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:49 AM
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4. Junior woke the monsters
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bigfootme Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:09 PM
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40. roflol
OMG, that is so funny!
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:53 AM
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5. Brilliant!
The USA is being run by a bunch of George-Bush-following ingrates who--up until Junior was elected--were dismissed as nut jobs. They used to hide in their houses and they had some sense of shame. Now they feel validated and empowered. Now, they're sauntering around local YMCAs with a sense of entitlement.

I've been thinking lately how the Bush era has empowered the worst people in this country. Like you
say, these people used to have some sense of shame. Now their out and proud, and it's appalling.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:44 PM
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53. And the only reason for that is so
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 03:45 PM by FreedomAngel82
they can hide behind them. Bush doesn't care about them and their agenda. He hasn't done anything about Roe V Wade or gay marriage either way and won't. Heck he isn't even saying "Merry Christmas" to them!! The only reason why they are so rude and selfrighteous is because they believe they are the majority in this country and in the republican party when both aren't true. They didn't "win" this last election because of "moral values" (whatever that is) and they only control the republican party a little bit on face value so people like Tom DeLay can hide behind religion and claim to be innocent on his crimes. Bush is the same way. At least Poppy never made a big deal about his religion (that I know of anyway).
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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:17 AM
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81. this parallels the Naomi Klein piece on torture, how it was always done
by the US gov't covertly, but now it is overt, in your face, proud of it. I believe the consciousness of people in the US is being affected by this in a very bad way. From identifying themselves and their gov't as "good" to "will do any wrong, break any law, bomb any village, in order to get ahead, be #1"

Could be a few years ago this woman mouthed words like "we try to do the right thing, but we make mistakes". Now she would be more likely to say "Do it our way or shut up"



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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:33 AM
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85. Yes, any sense of our accountability....
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 11:05 AM by Jade Fox
as a nation has been destroyed by Bushco's post-9/11 posturing. They deliberately
rile up those Americans who've projected all their sense of victimization onto
the "terrorists". And people in victim mode believe they are justified in doing
anything to redress the harm done to them with out apology, even if that harm
is largely imaginary.

Our national consciousness, as you say, has shifted from that of a responsible
power to that of a wounded bully.

These two paragraphs are from a Robert Parry article about the "war on Christmas"
over in the Editorials forum, but I think they apply here as well:

There is, of course, a danger whenever a powerful group begins to view itself as the victim, because their real power allows these ersatz oppressed to inflict far greater harm on their enemies than could a group without power.

Historically, the world has seen this phenomenon many times, for instance, when Christians in Europe convinced themselves that they were at the mercy of cunning Jews. Many of the continent’s anti-Jewish pogroms were conducted by Christians convinced that they were simply defending their way of life, that they were the real victims.


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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:30 PM
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86. you got it.
I avoided making the 30s-Germany connection but you did it so smoothly.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:53 AM
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6. Blitzer Liberal?
OMFG!!!!!!

:banghead:
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:57 AM
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7. Great post.
You described the situation so well I felt like I was actually standing there watching this creature! :crazy:
Maybe you have a career in political consulting as their average-repug-in-the-world expert who convinces Dems not to pander to people who actually believe Blitzer hates republicans, etc., etc.. Of course, your job description could be fine tuned, but you've got the observational skills sorely lacking in the people who run our party campaigns against Fauxists like this person. And these are the people Hillary is running toward? I'm waiting for Hillary's speech on the war on Christmas followed by some bill that outlaws NOT putting a lighted, plastic creche scene on your roof!

:thumbsup:
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talos4 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:58 AM
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8. Question?
Liberals have traditonally been successful debaters based on the quality of the arguments given. In the statement opening this threas you are reverting to the old "conservative stereotype" with "fake nails", "sauntering around the local YMCA", etc. This image does not represent most conservatives I have met and will not take you far in an intellectual debate. People on both sides of the spectrum need to go beyond these superficial putdowns and discuss the actual meat of issues, or, they will lose in the debating forum.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:01 PM
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10. She watches FAUX News
and she's a bimbo. She is a slice of that festering faux pie. What does that have to do with the so-called respectable neos-cons who are only there for the money?
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:09 PM
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15. What's your question?
That's the topic line...I thought I'd answer it for you, but instead there was no question there.

Let's face it: followers of the petulant monkey are bizarre. They live in a different time. What they lack in political taste, they make up for in making sure their sartorial sense matches. They are dumb, ill-mannered, and expect those around them to bend to their whims. When we don't, they take it as a personal affront and they start to leave puddles behind them because of all the sweat coming from their ass cracks.

They'll get used to hiding--in their dark green with gold trim sweat suits--in the near future. And America will be a better place because of it.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:14 PM
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17. Yes, but certainly such a type is much more in the majority on their side
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 12:16 PM by norml
and is well worth lampooning.

Screw the reasoned politeness muzzle that none of them would ever wear.

If the health food store hippie is our stereotype, this processed and perfumed monstrosity of an ugly old crank that our friend encountered is certainly their's.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:04 PM
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33. Hmmm....maybe Limbaugh would do well to follow that advice as well.
Or is only liberals who fail to elevate the discourse?
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:07 PM
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36. I think it's a good description.
It fits a lot of the bush bots I've seen.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:33 PM
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50. This is not an "intellectual debate"
This was an individual incident and a cultural observation.

I am glad you have intellectual conservatives wherever you are. I wish them well, as they are clearly an endangered species in the current GOP ecosystem.
Here in Texas, this description fits well within credibility.
I didn't know fake nails and sauntering were Bushbot stereotypes.

Conservatives these days are rarely interested in "intellectual debate" anyway, and certainly that is not germane to this thread.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:47 PM
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54. It's called an observation
This person wasn't going to debate the person from their story. They were observing.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:28 PM
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65. Answer: original post is an anecdote, not a debate
If the experience matches a stereotype, that is not the fault of the person relating the story.

Also, FYI, this is not a conservative vs. liberal debate website. If you thought it was, you came to the wrong place. But FWIW, welcome to DU anyway.
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 07:42 PM
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73. Umm he was describing an actual person

Though if you want a Faux news viewer that seems less stereotypical, I found a blog of one: www.jameshudnall.com
(If you visit his site though you may want to :puke: :puke: )
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:17 PM
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78. You're right. There was no mention made of puffy couches, crew cabs
or milk gravy. It couldn't be about republicans. Oh, wait -- I just described my parents, and they're Dems. My mom would as soon spit on George Bush, as look at him, and she'd do it from behind the wheel of her giant SUV, as she left Wal-Mart, after doing her Christmas shopping.

What you're looking for is the sterotype. I'm more prone to believe the story when the example isn't "like most conservatives I know." But, thank God, I don't know many. And I'm from the Heartland.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:59 AM
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9. I have neighbors and relatives like that.
Also, I remember a man on a Disney board asking whether Disney resorts get Fox news, otherwise he would stay at an off-site hotel. I walk in my neighborhood every day and there are people, some of them workers but many are residents, and they play their dorky AM talk shows loudly. It's as though they know they're being brainwashed and actually crave it. Of course, they'd love to expose as many normal people to the propaganda as they can.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:11 PM
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16. I went to the doctor's office the other day and Fox was on.
I told the doctor, that if that is all there was to watch on TV, it was a small wonder to me that soooo many people around there were soooo sick!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:50 PM
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56. I think with some people
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 03:50 PM by FreedomAngel82
they listen to people like Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity because they believe that they care about them when they don't either. They just care about making money. Other wise they would really try to educate the people and back up their sources and claims etc. instead of just blaming Clinton for everything. Murdoch is a capitalist and now the big time corporations give (and thus control) the republican party and the media so everything is in their best intrest's. Not mine or anyone else's. If everything was reverse and it was the democrats in the situation of the republicans I know that Murdoch would have fox be liberal or at least moderately democratic. He and people like him follow the money.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:03 PM
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11. You'd think the constant "Who let you out?" looks these people
get when they go into their acts would penetrate the fog of political self righteousness, but it never seems to. They are utterly oblivious to everyone else in the world unless they find themselves inconvenienced, and then they start revealing themselves. Oh, do they ever!

If people started looking at me the way I've seen people look at the type of cretin you described, I'd start seriously considering just where I'd gone wrong. These folks never do.

Heh, I've been known to sing "You can't always get what you want..." when one of them is going into a snot slinging fit over something trivial. At least it defuses the tension in the area and gets a laugh and sometimes the cretin even slinks away.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:03 PM
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12. My first thought was
you're making that up but then I remembered the woman in the "what would jesus do" sweatshirt who told me to go fuck myself when I pointed out to her that jesus probably wouldn't go through the express lane at the grocery store with 50 or 60 items in his cart. Great post!!!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:36 PM
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47. priceless





Cher

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
62. OMG! How rude! So glad Pinhead** had restored honor and dignity
to this Country. These people act just like their slimy leaders.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 01:53 AM
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88. Yeah like the people who use the express lane when there are 2 of them
and the 23 items in the cart divided by the 2 of them is less than 12.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:09 PM
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13. Have you noticed the desperation lately?
Even one of Karl Rove's relatives here said she now knows she was wrong (had his photo on mantel puke)

Those left behind have to feel incredibly defensive.
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:09 PM
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14. CSPAN liberal?
ESPN is liberal? Who knew?
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:22 PM
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20. Yep, CSPAN does not have the "woosh".
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:52 PM
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58. ESPN is a sports network
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 03:52 PM by FreedomAngel82
How can that be liberal? Only liberals like sports?? :shrug: I guess I better tell my dad the memo and he can't watch anymore UT (Tn) games.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:46 AM
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82. OF COURSE ESPN is liberal. Didn't you hear?
They hired Keith Olbermann back to do an hour of Dan Patrick's radio show with him five days a week. If that doesn't make them Damn Liberals, I don't know what does!

(Truth: Dan gets a huge kick out of referring to Keith as "That Liberal Muckraker, Keith Olbermann" every time he says anything against Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly.)
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:18 PM
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18. Why doesn't she take her big nails to a private, for-profit gym...
and work them out there. What an annoying cretin.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:21 PM
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19. Great description!
The woman was dressed in a forest green track suit with gold trim---and navy blue Nikes. Her salt-and-pepper, tightly-permed hair overpowered her head, which sported a large pair of black-framed glasses. She was also chewing and cracking a very large wad of gum, and she reeked of cheap perfume.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:23 PM
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21. I know folks just like her.
Angry

Hateful

Paranoid

Slow Witted

Faux News was marketed straight to them. Quite ingenious, if you think about it.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:25 PM
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22. What's really scary......
A bubblehead vote counts the same as a well-educated intelligent vote. (Well, in non-diebold elections, that is!)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:30 PM
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23. We were in a restaurant not long ago that had side by side TVs
one showing CNN and one showing Faux. My husband, who normally ignores the news, watched them the whole time we were there and on the way home commented that he was stunned by the difference. CNN was showing the story over and over of all the Christmas shoppers stampeding the stores on Black Friday. Then they went on to other fluff pieces. Faux was going on and on about the healthy economy and then went right into a story about the good things in Iraq. He thought it was remarkable that CNN never mentioned Iraq, while Faux spent the majority of the 30 minutes on the war. And Faux never once mentioned the crazy shoppers.
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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:40 PM
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26. I call those people what Chris Rock calls them
"Cracka ass crackas"

There are many of them at my college.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:58 PM
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32. That just breaks my heart
I am in my 50s and universities were packed full of liberal hippies when I attended.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:37 PM
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24. Um...*raises hand timidly*
I recently complained to physical therapists that Faux News was the only channel being offered. Am I as weird as the lady who demanded Faux News? Maybe. :shrug: :hide:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:41 PM
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27. Fantastic bumper sticker page link!!!!
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:50 PM
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57. No, you're not.
:)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:39 PM
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25. People like that are why I LOVEusing my TV-B-Gone in public places that
have FAUX News on the TV!!!! :rofl:
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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:45 PM
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28. C span is full of evil librul indecency and debauchery
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:46 PM
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29. Tinfoil hat time - Has the * admin been paying........
Fox News Channel to use subliminal messages to strengthen their hold on the weak-minded morons that tune into that channel?

Yes, it's supposed to be against the law for TV networks to do this, but.....

Think about it.....this administration has stolen two elections, lied to justify an invasion of another country, paid media shills like Armstrong Williams to advance their agenda, paid Iraqi media to print favorable stories. Why should we put something like this past them?

These are exactly the types of operations that US Miltary Psyops specialize in conducting. Why wouldn't this administration use subliminal messages to supress independent, rational thinking on our part?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:13 PM
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37. "Why wouldn't this administration use subliminal messages "
They already got caught doing it in a campaign ad during the 2000 campaign. Shockingly, the GOP used the word RATS in their anti-Gore ad. Not a new trick, the use of rats in a propaganda piece...


The Propaganda Film


"Wherever rats turn up, they spread annihilation throughout the land, destroying property and food supplies. This is how they disseminate disease. Pestilence, leprosy, typhus, cholera, dysentery. Just like the Jews among mankind, rats represent the very essence of malicious and subterranean destruction."

The film, The Eternal Jew, was created to justify the separation, exclusion, and ultimately the destruction, of the Jewish people. The narrator describes the Jews of Poland as filthy, sly and ugly and juxtaposes images of Jews with rats. The goal of propaganda is ultimately action. What does one do to rats? Exterminate them, of course. This was the unstated message of the hate film.
"If one compares the directness and intensity of the effect that the various means of propaganda have on the great masses, film is without question the most powerful. The written and spoken word depend entirely on the content or on the emotional appeal of the speaker, but film uses pictures, pictures that for almost a decade have been accompanied by sound. We know that the impact of a message is greater if it is less abstract, more visual. That makes it clear why film, with its series of continually moving images, must have particular persuasive force." Fritz Hipler, Nazi filmmaker, creator of The Eternal Jew 1937



http://www.historywiz.com/nazi-mm-film.htm



Film as a Weapon

by Dr. Fritz Hippler

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/hippler1.htm

The Eternal Jew

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_ewige_Jude

The propagandists just change the name of the intended mark to suit the need!


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:54 PM
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59. Check out the film "Outfoxed"
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 03:55 PM by FreedomAngel82
It shows they get memo's that tells them what to talk about and it's ALWAYS Bush/republican friendly. You can see this film at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info Also while you're there check out the film "The Myth of the Liberal Media." Oh and "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" is another good one.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:53 PM
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30. "They don't give me the real news, like I get on Fox...."
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 12:59 PM by Rob H.
More like, "They don't give me fictitious, jingoistic bullshit that makes me feel superior to rest of the world and justifies my irrational fear/hatred of gays, liberals, ethnic minorites, smart people, and everyone who isn't exactly like me, like I get on Fox."

The phrase "real news" and "Fox" should never be uttered in the same sentence, EVER--well, unless it's to say something like, "Fox wouldn't know 'real news' if it bit them on the ass" or "'Fox' and 'real news' go together like styrofoam packing peanuts and a fine pinot noir."

Edit: clarity.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:58 PM
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31. Look at this. I'm calling out for a change in America.
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 01:02 PM by Gregorian
If the truth came out of the television, America would be better. (That reads-liberal and Democrat. But those are dirty words now.)

What I really mean is that the fact that everyone has a television, AND what comes out of it is conservative noise, the result is what we see.

That box over in the corner of every room in the country is an unfair advantage to propaganda. And it's a menace to our society. Only a slim band is truthful and beneficial.

I wish I could convey what I have discovered while spending the last two years in European forums. As a 50 year old, I have to compete to keep up with 18 year olds over there.

Here are two examples of just artwork done by a kid. But what I'm really talking about is dialogue. Facts, perspective, history, science. We've created a country of mindless idiots. I am one of them. But at least I know it. I am here in an attempt to catch up.



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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:05 PM
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34. She comes there to "relax?"
Bush has taken her all the way from the slums to the YMCA. She must not have gotten her yacht yet.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:06 PM
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35. I once did the same thing as that lady
in the smoking lounge at the Baton Rouge airport. The TV was tuned in to Fox News, and I was really simmering mad about it. People left, and I was the only one left in the room, so tried to change the channel, but it was "fixed." So, I complained to the airport mgt office....he said no one else had ever complained, but it was "fixed" at a higher level than himself. He was laughing at me, deep inside, I could tell. Jerk.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:57 PM
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60. The difference with you
is nobody else was there. You weren't being rude to another person.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:17 PM
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38. Shocking. She can chew gum and chatter at the same time.
Too bad someone didn't tell her to have a happy holiday. That may have pissed her off enough to possibly make her choke on her gum!
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:01 PM
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39. LMAO
"The USA is being run by a bunch of George-Bush-following ingrates who--up until Junior was elected--were dismissed as nut jobs. They used to hide in their houses and they had some sense of shame. Now they feel validated and empowered. Now, they're sauntering around local YMCAs with a sense of entitlement."

Fucking hilarious!

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:14 PM
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41. I can't even stand progressives who crack gum. You deserve
credit for not smacking her silly face!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:16 PM
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42. Says it for me!
And I'll add:

War-Mongrels
People whom just LOVE to hate (hate-mongrels)
Gossip Hungry-Mongrels
People who believe anything from the tube (can't think for themselves, nor form opinions)
Low on the thought-process poll sorta goes with the latter line above.

Hell, just add any negative word before mongrels, and there you have it.

Fake nails... You're so on the nail here, don't know whether to laugh hysterically or cry the same way.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:19 PM
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43. I think I would have laughed at her and made a few comments.
Hoping to really piss her off so she would never return.

I hate stupid people!!
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:22 PM
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44. I know.
The misfits have taken over.


Give it time.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:24 PM
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45. just give her the bushhitler salute the next time she wants Faux news
that really ought to piss her off. Sieg Heil. Obviously drank too much of the kool-aid.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:26 PM
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46. You must have been at the Y in Florida
They're all here now, swooping in from the north, demanding demanding demanding.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:46 PM
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48. Couple comments
What if it was a liberal demanding Olbermann? I really can't think of any other "liberal" broadcaster. Would the complaint be any more valid, or less valid? I constantly read posts about liberals demanding Faux News be turned off in a public place, how is this any different? Heck, there are some in this thread.

Wolf Blitzer hates all Republicans? What planet is she on?


CSPAN is liberal? CSPAN hates America?


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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:17 PM
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63. The lady was rude, anyone that rude deserves to be ridiculed.
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 05:18 PM by Chi
As far as your Olbermann analogy goes...you'll have to find a liberal show which consistently lies and parrots Democratic talking points, and Olbermann isn't it. If you do find one, THEN the complaint would equally valid.

'I constantly read posts about liberals demanding Faux News be turned off in a public place, how is this any different?'
It's different because no one should HAVE to listen to falsehood and propaganda.
The same thing goes for an establishment playing Rush (fucking liar) Limbaugh.. I shouldn't HAVE to listen to his fat ignorant ass.

Your right, there are some in this thread, and I am one of them.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:41 PM
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66. Well, now you know how that lady felt
to her, CNN and CSPAN(?) lie and parrot Democratic talking points. I guess it depends whose ox is being gored :shrug:
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:57 PM
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68. So, there is no objective truth, then?
If Fox constantly implies that Saddam and Osama were best buddies, and WMDs were found in Iraq, despite all objective eveidence to the contrary, then that is NO DIFFERENT from Olbermann pointing out that there is no evidence that Saddam had WMDs, or that there is a great deal of evidence that Saddam and Osama were enemies?

Although all news is politicized to varying extents, Fox news is explicitly and egregiously political, to the point of misleading its viewers. I don't care if it's a choice at one exercise station or wherever, but no one should be forced to listen to it--so if it's on in a waiting room and it's all that's on, then yes, customers should request (politely) that they not be subjected to it.

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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:54 PM
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71. No, just that they believe exactly as you do
But from the other side. You're reading FAR too much into it. So just as you see yourself under seige when "forced" to watch Fox, they see themselves under seige when NOT watching Fox.
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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 01:27 AM
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87. Sure I know how she felt, and if she wasn't rude, I would feel sorry for h
But her feelings don't turn her ignorant beliefs into truth.

Anyone who feels FNC gives them more accurate news is ignorant, and I feel sorry for them.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:50 PM
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49. Great story!
Reminds me of Big Eddy's mission to Faux Friends. He found himself besieged by 3 of them and the one had to pull out the war on Christmas thing. When Eddy was able to get a word in edgewise, he told them that 3 on 1 was not right for the Fair and Balanced network.
He tried, but I think he is done with Fox. The incessant babbling is a turnoff.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:41 PM
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51. Gosh how rude was she to him?
She acted like they were to bow down to her and only her. I haven't been to my YMCA in a long time but my mom and dad go every week to work out (they really enjoy them too) and there they can change the tv stations. My mother told me once that Bush was giving a speech and someone there turned it and nobody cared. Heh! Oh and it's not fair to make assumptions about her family. For all you know her kids could be democrats and/or despise Bush. So it's not really quite fair since you don't know the kids. I was raised in a republican household and I turned out to be very far-left liberal (my mom though isn't a republican anymore but an indie and now votes by canidate in all elections).
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:49 PM
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55. Ugh
Please tell me you're kidding! (I know you're not - I swear I've seen the same woman at my YMCA!)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:14 PM
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77. I think that same woman is here posting sometimes.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:58 PM
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61. Why do repugs feel they have a right to be so rude to strangers?
Why do they feel the need to show their ignorance in public? I would have been so embarrassed for her, she didn't have class enough too not engage in such a public display of rudeness and ignorance.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:21 PM
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64. You should have yelled "By the grace and compassion of Allah, you
will have your Fox News"
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:47 PM
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67. Check out this thread.......
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PatriotGames Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:19 PM
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69. Nice post. "hate Christmas", ROFLMAO n/t
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:24 PM
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70. Lets pray for the young people
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 06:28 PM by Raydawg1234
Im 22 and although our country is in dire times right now, I do have hope that all these ass holes will eventually die and people like me will be in charge of the country.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 07:40 PM
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72. I worry for young people
They are the ones who will feel the backlash of terrible foreign policies, mass deficits, marginalization, environmental damage, torture, and world hatred directed at the U.S.

We have to turn things around next year by replacing Congress. 2008 will be too late.

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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:10 PM
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74. At RCC, the community college I attend, all they ever
have on the television in the Student Lounge is Faux. I cannot stand it. Sometimes in the mornings, I will sit in the cold outside or walk all the way back to the car to drink my milk, which I drink to reduce nausea. Adding Faux News Channel to being up in that early in the morning does not help with nausea, btw.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:30 PM
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75. LOL
:rofl:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:10 PM
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76. thought I'd never buy a Taser...but think of using it on those TV's...hmm
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:14 AM
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79. It's the same at my YMCA
I've noticed that the Faux News watchers at my YMCA don't want to watch anything else. They do not watch sports, movies, music channels or anything else. It has got to be Faux News. I make it a point to change the channel from Faux News every chance I get, just to make them mad. They are brain dead morons.
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Aimah Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:56 AM
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80. I hate that 2 of my favorite places has Fox news on
The Papa Johns near downtown and a sub shop I go to. I don't understand why they have it on Fox they're both in very blue areas. I don't complain, I just get my food to go and leave.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:18 AM
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84. She must have called Cspan the other day!
I heard a lady caller complaining to the host, "Why do you keep reading from all them LIBRUL papers?" The host answered by citing several conservative papers they read from as well, but she was unconvinced. "You read from the New York Times! And the Washington Post!! I just don't understand why you keep reading from them--they're LIBRUL!!"
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