Clooney challenges O'Reilly to debate: Bill declines

[kpete]

Clooney challenges O'Reilly to debate: Bill declines

I'm really feeling the Holiday spirit today so here's a fun gift for all to see. George was on The Abrams Report, and talked about his feud with Bill O'Reilly on Dec. 5th.

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/The-Abrams-Report-Clooney-Bill.mov

Clooney said that he will debate O'Reilly on any venue other than his own, but Bill told him that Rupert won't allow him to go. That is the lamest defense O'Reilly come up with? Bill already debated Paul Krugman on the Tim Russert Show and Murdock didn't mind. Is Bill fighting too many wars? Will he attack President Bush for taking Christmas out of the WH "Holiday Card?"
http://www.crooksandliars.com/

[queenbdem87]

1. o'rielly is

incapable of looking coherent unless he is in an environment when the other opinions aren't represented

[Lefty48197]

9. Welcome to DU, Queen

Now get right back to bashing the Republicans, because they so deserve it, and because you're good at it. :hi:

[rucky]

2. Put Bill on the coward list.

O'Reilly is such an easy target, sometimes I'm ashamed to tease him.

[bridgit]

3. o'really o'reilly ain't got noth'n besides being a blovacious smartass...

and he damn well knows it, that same tired old schick is his only bread & butter

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. O'Reilly looks like an assistant manager of a Thriftys

And acts like a spoiled child. Why he is taken seriously by anyone is beyond me.

[Daphne08]

5. Yes, this reminds me of Loud-mouth Limbaugh who wouldn't

debate some of the students of Evanston Township High School. I can't find the article, but a few months ago, Limpballs mouthed off about their curriculum (I believe they were studying foreign languages and world affairs), so they offered to have a debate with him.

I don't believe he accepted either.

[Joey Liberal]

6. O'Really is a fake Irishman

I'm part Irish, and O'Really is no Irishman.

[Solon]

7. I'm about 70% percent Irish...

and I agree 100%, O'fucker is a damned poser.

[Joey Liberal]

16. O'Fucker wouldn't last 2 minutes in an Irish Pub

He'd get his fake Irish ass whipped as soon as he tried to talk tough. He's an insult to anyone with Celtic blood running through their veins. Same goes for Hannity.

[Solon]

17. Both those MFers are wannabe WASPs, I hate them as only...

a proper Irishman can!

[mcctatas]

20. Unless he's Ulster-Irish...

Orangeman maybe?:)

[zbdent]

8. Wasn't BS O'Lielly on some other TV show

not on Fox? Sure, Murdoch won't let him go . . . :sarcasm:

[catmother]

15. he was on the daily show about a month ago. he seemed very

uncomfortable.

[zbdent]

24. Wasn't he on some morning show promoting some POS kids book

of his? I can't remember the name, but it sure as hell didn't have a rebuttal from a liberal/leftie/democrat, which was contrary to their usual standard where the leftie comes on, and then a rightie gets to have the last word and trounce the left . . .

[Deja Q]

10. So Rupert is Bill's daddy? I knew somethin' was goin' on, I knew it!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[brentspeak]

11. O'Reilly would be a real wimp not to engage Clooney

Clooney right now is fighting the effects of a brain injury, so he would be fighting O'Reilly as if he had one arm tied behind his back.

[shenmue]

12. BO'R is a chicken!

Bgaaawwk! Bgawk gawk gawk gawwwwwwk!

:cry:

:rofl:

[Cha]

13. bo sounds like he's scared

shitless of George Clooney!

And, bo is not quite the most desirable face for Christmas!

[Lefty48197]

14. Oh, I'm sure Bill will "debate" Clooney

it's just that it will be one of Bill's usual "debates", i.e. where he hides behind Rupert Murdoch's Microphone/Castle and spews his usual loud-mouthed slander and doesn't let anybody challenge him on anything. Yeah right Bill. Nice debate.

[I Have A Dream]

19. Or he has them on his show but controls the microphone...

or edits the interview to make it say what he wants it to say.

[drooly11]

18. Anybody see him with stern yesterday?

I haven't seen today's installment. But i was actually glad i watched. Hate or love stern (i love), one has to respect his savvy, and his feelings about the first amendment. Free speech protection means speech you find deplorable is also protected. Don't like it? Then you don't like America. And that's that. One of the few things i'm black and white on.

i could go on and on. Here in salt lake, they have "free speech zones" for protestors. Last time i read the constitution, it had free speech zones. Clearly marked on the map. Look at a map. Specifically the part labeled "USA". There's your free speech zone buddy.

Caveat: I don't hate Bill Reilly. I think there's a place for him. Watch the movie The Last Supper starring Cameron Diaz and see where i'm coming from (ron perlman plays the rush-type character, it was made in 95). Long and short: he's an entertainer first. Having entertainers be extremely one-sided attracts viewers. Those that love and hate him in near-equal proportions(i'm guessing a lot of you watch him too, only screaming and throwing things at the tubes). It's stupid to not think his handlers don't plan on vilification from a faction. Again, it's entertainment, and that means drama. I don't know how close Reilly the character is to Reilly the person, but one shouldn't get them confused. What you watch is a carefully crafted and tested character.

I digress.
I watch the techniques he employs. It's funny to watch him pick apart someone who wasn't in a position of power, or has an expectation of civility. I believe some readers actually do have to spend time on the pseudo-news/talk show circuit. I've noticed a few posters who mention having to be on Matthews and so forth. Don't know the validity, but i'll take people at their words. So maybe this may seem interesting.

After watching him with stern, i realized Bill as the interviewer has a few predictable traits. Here are the things he respects:
- Angry rebuttal... Actually i should say a lack of intimidation. That doesn't mean silence or shocked "How could you be so F'n dumb?" looks, i mean going on the offensive - quick, terse rebuttals.
- Power. If you have money and a lot of power, you'll watch him test the waters but quickly back off. I saw this as well with his interview on Bill Maher's show. He will quickly become friendly and almost obsequious.
-Stature. Seriously. If you're lucky enough to be taller than him, it's an obvious discomfort.

I haven't seen today's installment. But i noticed how he was trying to pigeonhole stern. Stern went on the verbal offensive, but did a few things that disarmed Reilly.
- he had quick and concise rebuttals.
- He would NOT allow to be cut off, and he did suave-ly.
- He thinly, but playfully threatened Reilly.
- He included Reilly as a nice gesture in his rant about creative freedom on networks "look, broadcast was so scared of the fcc and complaints, you really couldn't do anything. Nobody on broadcast had their own opinions, there could NOT have been an o'reilly before a stern" And bill had to eat it.

Anyhow, if one wants to spar with him, or has to, they would serve themselves well to watch the video. How many times did o'reilly try to get a lock down on "so there'll be more four letter words on satellite?" "no, there'll be more humor and freedom to do what the comedy bit calls for". It was good goldang fun.

My .02.

Thanks for reading my babble.


-d

[newyawker99]

23. Hi drooly11

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Swamp Rat]

21. boOOk bok bok bok boooOK bok bok!...

O'Reilly is a chicken! O'Reilly is a chicken! :D

[Jade Fox]

22. Of course he did. None of these wingnut pundits....

ever do debates--reality would intrude on the fantasy world they feed their
devoted fans. Their success depends on staying insular.