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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:14 PM
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DNA Test with No Body? Key al-Qaida Leader Killed in Pakistan -
Edited on Sat Dec-03-05 08:47 PM by stop the bleeding
I know there were similar threads to this already posted but I think there is an interesting point brought up by IndianaGreen.


  • Key al-Qaida Leader Killed in Pakistan-Associated Press - Yahoo.com




    Hamza Rabia, a key associate of al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri, died Thursday in an explosion in the North Waziristan tribal area, and his remains were identified in DNA tests, Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said.

    Two U.S. counterterrorism officials, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the information's sensitivity, confirmed Rabia's death but would not elaborate on the circumstances.

    The Dawn newspaper, citing sources it did not identify, reported that the attack on a mud-walled home near Miran Shah may have been launched from two pilotless planes. Miran Shah is a strategic tribal region where remnants of al-Qaida are believed to have been hiding and where Pakistani forces have launched several operations against them.

    The newspaper reported that associates from outside Pakistan retrieved the bodies of Rabia and two other foreigners and buried them in an unknown location.







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    merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:23 PM
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    1. Think they'll find the body of this one?
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    stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:26 PM
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    2. If they do then the body will be with all of the "Disappeared"
    --- known terrorists that have been captured but do not show up on anyone's records in prison's or detention facilities.



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    wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:29 PM
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    3. Ah too bad he wanted to be No. 2 so bad
    :rofl:

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    IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:31 PM
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    4. How can you have DNA tests when there is no body!
    The man was killed on Thursday. To have a DNA test you need to take a sample from the dead body. You then have to match that sample to another sample taken from the man while he was still alive, or taken from a closed relative. It takes many days to prepare the samples for testing and to extract the DNA, just ask how long it is taking to match DNA from Katrina and 9/11 victims.

    Remember the man was killed on Thursday... how credible is the claim of a DNA identification?
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    stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:39 PM
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    5. You have a great point and I am renaming this thread with an edit
    so that this can be discussed more.

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    bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:40 PM
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    6. Number 3?
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    serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:44 PM
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    7. It couldn't be #1 or 2
    or OUR problem with terrorism would be over!:woohoo:
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    rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:30 PM
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    8. cnn said today that it was a cia unmanned plane that destroyed the huse.


    The Dawn newspaper, citing sources it did not identify, reported that the attack on a mud-walled home near Miran Shah may have been launched from two pilotless planes. Miran Shah is a strategic tribal region where remnants of al-Qaida are believed to have been hiding and where Pakistani forces have launched several operations against them.
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    stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:41 PM
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    9. yes that is the point by IndianaGreen, How can you identify someone
    Edited on Sat Dec-03-05 10:47 PM by stop the bleeding
    by DNA testing within a matter of hours to days. Here is a link
  • DNA Testing: An Introduction For Non-Scientists An Illustrated Explanation-DONALD E. RILEY, Ph.D. University of Washington April 6, 2005
    From what I understand DNA testing takes a wee bit longer. Secondly, DNA testing usually requires tissue or a body and since there is no body.....

    ... The newspaper reported that associates from outside Pakistan retrieved the bodies of Rabia and two other foreigners and buried them in an unknown location.



    I have to agree with IndianaGreen this whole thing does not add up.


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