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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:17 PM
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Are you concerned that an early pullout will leave Iraq to the terrorists?
MSNBC question of the day: Are you concerned that an early pullout will leave Iraq to the terrorists?

* 5766 responses

Yes...................31%

No....................69%


They also want our comments on the question of the day :)


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/



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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:20 PM
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1. If we leave
the terrorists will leave becouse we are the terrorists in Iraq.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:27 PM
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6. you stole my response
I wish someone would identify who the terrorists are because so far, Bush & Co. are the only ones who fit my description.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:22 PM
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2. Done
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:22 PM
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3. Which terrorists?
The so called 7% of the resistance? Doesn't sound like their numbers are high enough to be in charge.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:22 PM
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4. Well here's my comment: Remember Somalia.
What will happen, and it's my "guess", that if the USA pulls out that Iraq will implode on itself, and there will be so much infighting as to control that country that the terrorists won't be of much concern as the fact that it would be Shi-ite on Sunni on Kurd on what have you.

When the US pulled out of Somalia, it just split up into a variety of factions that remain to this day. There is a Somalian government... in Kenya. There's still so many disagreements that the country is barely functioning.

Iraq may just well split into three. But I really don't know for sure - it is my "guess" after all. I hope to be proven wrong - and that Iraq pulls itself together and becomes one cohesive country after America etc leaves.

Mark.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:49 PM
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13. There's already infighting in Iraq, and it gained lots of
momentum since we got there to 'liberate'. :eyes: I think there will be more peace if Iraq does split into three, as I don't see the disparate factions ever agreeing with each other. Our presence isn't helping IMO, and I don't think the US will ever 'fix' the current problems, but will aid in getting more people killed.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:25 PM
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5. US military is the number one terrorist threat to the people of Iraq.
This is not a dig against the individuals who serve, but given the circumstances, the orders they are given, they are the number one threat.

Troops out now!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:27 PM
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7. for those who answered yes - have you ever had an original thought?
Why cant they have follow up questions? }(
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:29 PM
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8. I'm not concerned because ...
there's too much money to be made selling oil. If the terrorists take over, the country will never be allowed to sell the oil on the world market or we will keep production shut down in retaliation for whatever terrorist acts they commit.

I expect the bathist's will resume control eventually after a year or two and they won't want the terrorists interfering with their cash flow.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:31 PM
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9. I'm sorry --stupid question?
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 02:33 PM by kenny blankenship
who are "THE terrorists" you're referring to? The Shiite militias? the Sunni and Ba'ath militias? the jihadis & foreign fighters (of whom we are by far the most numerous)? the Kurdish separatist militias?....please provide a little definition. Because it's so vague in its signifiers, this poll seems to ask nothing more searching thatn "Do you like bad people. Y/N? "

"THE terrorists" it seems to me is just a catchall phrase used by the Bush Administration to disparage whomever they don't like on a given day. Or everyone who opposes their plan to occupy Iraq for the next couple of decades.

And NO, I don't worry about leaving Iraq to the terrorists because whatever is going to happen there is going to happen whether we leave by July 4, 2006 or Jan 1, 2012. We've stirred up the hornet's nest over there and the only question is how bad will it be--financially, politically, strategically-- and how long our KIA list will have grown when we finally decide we need to get the fuck out of there.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:47 PM
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11. It is stupid.
Lets just say for the sake of argument that the terrorists Bush keeps referring to are Zarquawi(sp)and whatever followers he has. How the hell is he supposed to rule Iraq after all the people he's killed? How's he going to deal with all the political and religious and ethnic factions? The very idea is so absurd it's laughable. And whoever eventually ends up ruling Iraq won't want those guys around making trouble.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:44 PM
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10. TERRORISTS????
There weren't any until Stupid invaded that country over a pack of lies and then refused to leave once the dictator was deposed, caught, and jailed.

Eventually the country will unite enough to throw us out and we will NOT like whatever government finally appears. That is pretty much a given.

However, to call them terrorists is a real stretch, even for this bunch of incompetents, thieves and liars. There were no terrorists there before Stupid invaded, and my guess is that they will evict the few who have come in since the invasion.

Remember, they had a complicated civilization when most of our ancestors were painting themselves blue and hitting each other over the head with clubs.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:48 PM
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12. not just "Terrorists", "the" terrorists. Just like bushie mcdickhead
would say it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:50 PM
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14. What made my mind up about it
was last year in December I saw a special Tom Brokaw did on all his years in tv journalism and one point he was in Iraq in the very beginning before it got bad. He saw a small group of young men around their mid twenties to early thirties. He asked one guy what he thought and he said: "I'd like to fight the Americans. Not the people but the government." So they know what is going on and I'm sure if we leave they'd stop. And I also saw a video a while back of an Iraqi fighter who said they wouldn't give up until we left and they thanked and encouraged other people to stand up too.
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dcfirefighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:01 PM
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15. " I pulled out of her REALLY early on that one. Sorry, thanks for coming."
- Ernie McCracken
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:03 PM
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16. Why would they leave home?
n/t
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:03 PM
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17. Done.
Yes 31%
No 69%

6551 responses.

I voted no. I don't fear terrorists like al Zarqawi taking over.
I do fear that Iraq will collapse into civil war.
But if Bush doesn't change his strategy, Iraq will
collapse anyway.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:04 PM
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18. They should have said "Civil War" and thats going to happen
no matter when we leave.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:31 PM
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23. Right, that's my concern
We invaded a country that was peaceful unless you were an enemy of Saddam. Crime was very low.

It's gotten more and more violent since we have been there. Now everyone is in danger. It will be violent when we leave.

We created a no win situation.

Crazy
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:07 PM
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19. They want us out
It's time to leave.

Iraqi oil will still be available for purchase whether we are there or not.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:09 PM
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20. Duh!
The insurgents and terrorists only exist because we're there. It's a stupid question.
The Professor
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:14 PM
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21. No! TerroristsRUs! n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:25 PM
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22. Here's mine...
I am sure you are aware, that the US will remain in Iraq until all the contracts are signed, regardless of the actions or wishes of terrorists, insurgents, non-combatants, evil-doers, or any other name you choose to call the Iraqi people.
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