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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:56 PM
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"There's a very secret plan ... to diminish Christian philosophy in the"
"There's a very secret plan ... to diminish Christian philosophy in the U.S.A."

O'Reilly at it again.

Man I love MediaMatters!

http://mediamatters.org/items/200511300007

According to O'Reilly, the "secular progressive" movement has three elements:

First, progressive financiers George Soros and Peter Lewis "pour money into the ACLU , they pour money into the smear websites, you know, they buy up a lot of media time."
Second, "the ACLU is their legal arm. ... he ACLU runs around the country suing everybody and intimidating people."
Third, "the smear websites are their media arm."
O'Reilly said these three elements operate "in tandem":

O'REILLY: ou use your left-wing smear websites to go after anybody who stands up for Christmas. If you stand up for Christmas, they come after you. So the tandem intimidates. The tandem intimidates. Suing on one hand; smearing on the other hand.

The result? According to O'Reilly:

O'REILLY: In every secular progressive country, they've wiped out religion ... Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, all of them. That's the first step. Get the religion out of there, so that we can impose our big-government, progressive agenda.

Media Matters has already documented O'Reilly's theory that Soros and Lewis are "the money men behind the secular curtain." In fact, he has called for a "coalition of the willing to fight against this secular movement" and has posted an online list of "media operations have regularly helped distribute defamation and false information supplied by far left websites."

Then, on the November 29 broadcast of The Radio Factor, O'Reilly continued his condemnation of "blatant propaganda spit out there on a daily basis by hateful liars, picked up by the mainstream media, and rammed down the public's throat." This time, referencing media coverage of the Iraq war, O'Reilly exclaimed, "It's dishonest, it hurts the country -- and I'm going to bring those people down. Mark my words." Further explicating his "coalition of the willing," O'Reilly continued, "And that's what I was talking about last night in the coalition of the willing. We're going to go after those people where they live."
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:00 PM
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That's, "Sexual Deviant Bill O'Reilly"...
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:00 PM by AX10
and an Anti-Semite too.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:00 PM
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1. And we all know how "Christian" O'Reilly himself is.
He only uses loofahs as sex toys after they've been blessed.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:00 PM
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2. O'Reilly is Father Coughlin reincarnated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

Quotes:
On Nov. 20, 1938, two weeks after Kristallnacht, when Jews across Germany were attacked and killed, and Jewish businesses and homes burned, Coughlin blamed the Jewish victims, saying that "Jewish persecution only followed after Christians first were persecuted."

"Additionally, after 1936, Father Coughlin began supporting an organization called the Christian Front, which claimed him as an inspiration. In January, 1940, the Christian Front was shut down when the FBI discovered Christian Front was arming itself and preparing to attack Jewish targets and the Federal Reserve and eventually establish, in Herbert Hoover's words, "a dictatorship, similar to the Hitler dictatorship in Germany." Coughlin publicly stated after the plot was discovered that he still did not "disassociate himself from the movement," and though he was never linked directly to the plot, his reputation suffered. (New York Times, Jan 22, 1940)"

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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:01 PM
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3. It would be amusing, except there are so many people who buy into it.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:01 PM
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4. wish someone would pour money into me
where's my check

:shrug:

O'Lielly is such a nutcase

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:02 PM
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5. In all seriousness, where did O'Reilly come from? It seems he
has no concept of history (or reality). Does he have any education? I for one, never knew that Stalin's Russia, Nazi Germany, or Cuba were considered 'secular progressive' countries! But, where is his bio?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:02 PM
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6. He's spent too many drunken nights in front of Pat Robertson
and Jerry Falwell.

So, how exactly does one demand the psychological help for this man that he so obviously and desperately needs!
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:02 PM
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7. Stalin & Hitler were "progressive"?
And didn't Hitler LOVE to use God, Country and the church as propaganda tools?

O'lielly Lies yet again!
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:10 PM
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17. Hitler made abortion illegal and wanted religion in schools.
Yeah, really progressive there.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:03 PM
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8. These people should try being part of a ...
real minority religion or philosophy for a while and get over their persecution complex. Or better yet, try being an atheist for a day. People like O'Lielly and those he panders to for ratings seem to think that if everyone doesn't spout their exact views all the time, they are being discriminated against. Just not so, people. Time to grow up. People have differing opinions and because they do, it is NOT -- I repeat, NOT -- an attack on your opinions and beliefs. It's called dealing with the real, adult world. Try it.

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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:03 PM
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9. MM and Brock are not "smearing" him at all
MediaMatters always has everything in context, audio, video and transcript.

Truth is not a smear.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:07 PM
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10. o'reilly's fatwah for jihad.
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:07 PM by xchrom
or should i say patwah?
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:08 PM
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11. wow that's almost as nutty as the 9/11 CTs out there
flame suit ON.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:08 PM
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12. double post
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:08 PM by Caution
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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:09 PM
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13. What is he yammering about, he wanted to cheat on his wife.
with a falafel.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:09 PM
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14. Very secret my ass!!
It super DOUBLE secret. I hope he doesn't find out about the gay agenda.:yoiks:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:09 PM
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15. self-delete -- accidental double post eom
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:10 PM by MindPilot
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:10 PM
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16. He needs some serious couch time with a shrink.
He's really off his rocker here. I'll bet he thinks Howard Dean is hiding under his bed, too.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:11 PM
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18. Wipe out religion? There's 120 churches listed in our phone book,
for a community of 40,000. I quit counting at 120. How exactly is religion being harmed? If we've wiped out religion, how come there is still so much of it around?

What church does he belong to?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:11 PM
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19. Is he imploding?
Seems like he's responding to a change in sentiment like he knows only paranoid fundamentalist types are going to listen to him anymore, and he needs to solidify his standing with them.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:11 PM
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20. Full Demagogue Mode - O'Rielly is Totally There
And I expect far more -- and far more viscious -- Demagoguery from him in the months ahead.

he is calling out the True Believers to Get All Funky and Kick Some Ass.

He may well -- alas -- succeed in stiring up further the Shitpot of Hate.

But this, too, shall pass. And Mr. O'Reilly will come to learn how sick he is and how much worse he has made the world. This is how it ever is.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:11 PM
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21. Funny how O'Reilly never mentions Scaife, Coors, or Rev. Moon.
You'd think George Soros was the head of the KGB the way some rightists talk. Plus, Soros has poured a couple million into left wing causes, while the right's sugar daddies have poured in.....what? Tens of billions of dollars over thirty years?!

Obviously, it's not the fact that a few groups on the left get an occasional check from Soros. It's the competition that galls O'Reilly.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:18 PM
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27. Right on.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:11 PM
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22. Ahem... Gott Mitt Uns = God is with us
How exactly is that secular?
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:12 PM
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23. Man, the hypocrisy meter is off the scale!
First, progressive financiers George Soros and Peter Lewis "pour money into the ACLU , they pour money into the smear websites, you know, they buy up a lot of media time."

The ACLU has been known to do some good from time to time!

Second, "the ACLU is their legal arm. ... he ACLU runs around the country suing everybody and intimidating people."

Huh?

Third, "the smear websites are their media arm."

O'Reilly should know. He runs one!

O'Reilly said these three elements operate "in tandem":

O'REILLY: ou use your left-wing smear websites to go after anybody who stands up for Christmas. If you stand up for Christmas, they come after you. So the tandem intimidates. The tandem intimidates. Suing on one hand; smearing on the other hand.


*COUGH* Bullshit! *COUGH*

The result? According to O'Reilly:

O'REILLY: In every secular progressive country, they've wiped out religion ... Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, all of them. That's the first step. Get the religion out of there, so that we can impose our big-government, progressive agenda.

OK, he also left out... um half of modern Europe! And most of those guys are already dead anyways...

Then, on the November 29 broadcast of The Radio Factor, O'Reilly continued his condemnation of "blatant propaganda spit out there on a daily basis by hateful liars, picked up by the mainstream media, and rammed down the public's throat."

OK, you're probably thinking - where am I going with this? Am I going to call O'Reilly a hypocritical douchebag? Am I going to point out that he himself is a hateful liar who's been picked up by the mainstream media and rammed down the public's throat? Am I going to make a joke about his "no spin zone" which is nothing more than a crock of shit? Or am I going to post a link to his blacklist? Instead I'm going to point out that he's a hateful liar and a major propagandist who works for a news channel that's been banking off of people's stupidity for the last ten years.

This time, referencing media coverage of the Iraq war, O'Reilly exclaimed, "It's dishonest, it hurts the country -- and I'm going to bring those people down. Mark my words."

Who? The democrats or the republicans?

Further explicating his "coalition of the willing," O'Reilly continued, "And that's what I was talking about last night in the coalition of the willing. We're going to go after those people where they live."

Go ahead, the "coalition of the willing" doesnt see you as a threat, O'Reilly. At least it's not like you're a legitimate source of news that people turn to for truth and information on a daily basis anyways...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:13 PM
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24. Yeah! The neocons are the ones who are remaking Xtianity. Its all
gay all the time. It is scapegoating. It is not humble and it is not about love. It isn't about getting onto your knees and helping those who suffer. It is about attacking Chavez cause he is in a rich country and wants to see that rich be spread to the 70% of the population who are still poor - after 50 years of being a rich country.

All neocons do is project - project - project.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:16 PM
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25. Personally, I LIKE the idea of no religion.
But that's just me.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:17 PM
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26. I always ask 3 questions when Christians claim persecution
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:20 PM by Loonman
1) Has your Church been locked up, the priests put in jail?

2) Has your Bible been taken away from you?

3) If you prayed in your house, will the government swoop in and send you to a death camp?

No?

Then STFU, you crybaby wimp!
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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:18 PM
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28. "There's a very secret plan ... to diminish Christian philosophy in the U.
I believe this. O'Reilly would know. After all, he is one of the first to receive the talking points. However it is not Soros and Lewis, they are too busy trying to fight the darkness. It is Pat Robert's, and the rest of the televangelist thieves that are diminishing Christian philosophy. Philosophers discuss and think, these folk insist, demand and obscure. They honestly want Christian Philosophy to die. O'Reilly is part of the plot.
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freestyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:24 PM
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29. Who are these insecure losers?
I'm a Christian. I have absolutely no need to have my faith affirmed by the government or by any corporation. What kind of insecure idiot loser is scared that following the Constitution, or practicing decent customer service, will lead to purges of the faithful. Also, religion is doing just fine in Cuba, and is regulated, but practiced, in China. Hitler used Christianity quite well to advance his agenda. They are right about Stalin. He wanted people to worship him.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:32 PM
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30. Apparently they never heard of the Pharisees
That verse from Matthew is brilliant.
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