Cheney's office argued "president of the United States is all-powerful."

[BurtWorm]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/wilkerson_interview_4

Ex-Powell Aide Criticizes Detainee Effort By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer
Mon Nov 28, 6:13 PM ET



WASHINGTON - A top aide to former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Monday that wrongheaded ideas for the handling of foreign detainees arose from White House and Pentagon officials who argued that "the president of the United States is all-powerful" and the Geneva Conventions irrelevant.
...

Cheney's office, Rumsfeld aides and others argued "that the president of the United States is all-powerful, that as commander in chief the president of the United States can do anything he damn well pleases," Wilkerson said.

On the other side were Powell, others at the State Department and top military brass, and occasionally Condoleezza Rice, who was then national security adviser, Wilkerson said.

Powell raised frequent and loud objections, his former aide said, once yelling into a telephone at Rumsfeld: "Donald, don't you understand what you are doing to our image?"

[ixion]

1. Power drunk thugs.

they have committed war crimes because of their drunkeness, and should face the ICC, IMO.

[The Backlash Cometh]

19. The problem is that this is the kind of thinking that is ocurring at all

levels of government. We even have boards of HomeOwner Associations believing that one person on the board, the president, can cut deals with developers and give up our common ground without bringing in the rest of the board, or the rest of the Association. And this kind of wrong thinking is condoned by the City who has connections with the developer and/or the lawfirm that represents it.

Hell, our city is being brokered by our local government, and the lawyer for the private developer is the son of the community development official in the city! But I digress...

[ixion]

26. you may digress, but you're correct nonetheless

it happens at all levels, and We, the People should really put an end to it, because WE foot the bill for the whole shennanigan. :grr:

[The Backlash Cometh]

28. The problem at the local level is that you have to sell-out in order

to get ahead. All our community leaders are people who have put their integrity aside for an opportunity to hold onto the brass ring. And since they go to church and are Rotary Club members, no one will question them. Anyone who fights them is called a dissenter, and soon finds out that it's impossible to get legal representation because all the law firms have conflicts of interest, or worse, are more involved in the matter than is ethically sound.

[Hubert Flottz]

2. Insanity has taken over in Washington.

Anyone who voted for Bush is an accomplice in the downfall of this country!

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. "Donald, don't you understand what you are doing to our image?"

Oh yes they do and they don't care about our image. They are hell bent on destroying this country and the sooner people realize this the better off we will be. This is why these bastards will go down in history has the biggest traitors this country has ever seen.

[Hubert Flottz]

6. "They are hell bent on destroying this country "

They want to rule the world. I've thought all along that they were out to crush ALL borders and take the entire planet.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. That's a big part of it

the other major component of their plan is to get rid of as many useless eaters as possible. That's why they love war and natural disasters. They figure they can ride out whatever catastrophes occur and when all is said and done they will have the whole place to themselves.

[Hubert Flottz]

13. I think you're correct!

They want to thin out the entire planet's population and to own ALL the leftovers.

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. What I don't understand

is why are they so opposed to birth control? That would be the simplest way to thin out the planet. It seems they need bodies to feed their blood lust? They like watching people suffer and die. This is a really demented bunch of wackos.

[Hubert Flottz]

21. "opposed to birth control"

A lie to win over the bible thumping voters. The Bush family has made chumps out of so many voters who were fool enough to have "TRUSTED THEM" in the past.

Your question is a VERY GOOD one and since you asked. I will devote the time to point you to something you may, or may not, already know. The Bush family is and has been, anything but opposed, to "Birth Control"!

Race Hygiene: Three Bush Family Alliances

snip>

Bush and Draper

Twenty years before he was U.S. President, George Bush brought two `` race-science '' professors in front of the Republican Task Force on Earth Resources and Population. As chairman of the Task Force, then-Congressman Bush invited Professors William Shockley and Arthur Jensen to explain to the committee how allegedly runaway birth-rates for African-Americans were `` down-breeding '' the American population.

Afterwards Bush personally summed up for the Congress the testimony his black-inferiority advocates had given to the Task Force.@s2@s2 George Bush held his hearings on the threat posed by black babies on August 5, 1969, while much of the world was in a better frame of mind--celebrating mankind's progress from the first moon landing 16 days earlier. Bush's obsessive thinking on this subject was guided by his family's friend, Gen. William H. Draper, Jr., the founder and chairman of the Population Crisis Committee, and vice chairman of the Planned Parenthood Federation. Draper had long been steering U.S. public discussion about the so-called `` population bomb '' in the non-white areas of the world.

snip>

General Draper was George Bush's guru on the population question.@s3@s2 But there was also Draper's money--from that uniquely horrible source--and Draper's connections on Wall Street and abroad. Draper's son and heir, William H. Draper III, was co-chairman for finance (chief of fundraising) of the Bush-for-President national campaign organization in 1980. With George Bush in the White House, the younger Draper heads up the depopulation activities of the United Nations throughout the world.

snip>

Bush and Gray

The U.S. Agency for International Development says that surgical sterilization is the Bush administration's `` first choice '' method of population reduction in the Third World. TONS MORE...

http://www.tarpley.net/bush3.htm

There is a huge block of information at that link and I wish I could post more, but the rules say no. Congressman GHW Bush was the first person in Washington, to introduce the "Family Planning" idea in congress.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. That's new info for me

thanks for the post. More stuff to be horrified over.

[BurtWorm]

33. People who think birth control is evil are right wing breeding factories

usually. I hate to generalize, but...

[ProfessorGAC]

29. I'm Going To Say You're Right & Wrong

I think they don't care at all, and agree with you about that. However, because they don't ever even consider it, i don't think they know the damage they've done to our image.

They are so unconcerned that they are oblivious to it. That's not all that different than what you said, in spirit, but i honestly think it is so off-the-radar, that they really don't get it.
The Professor

[cantstandbush]

4. Time to write an updated Declaration of Independence.

If you read the current DI you will see that GW is no better than the George of the DI. It's time to "...alter or abolish and establish a new form of government..."

[Freedomfried]

18. Thats the instructions the founding Fathers left for us, tear it down and.

start all over.

it is time.

[Spinzonner]

5. Apparently they got weak-kneed

I thought sure they'd go for god.

[HereSince1628]

8. Give it time. As the empire proceeds the pRes will become a living god

just like the Ceasars

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. Nay, too late for that

the world knows that Bush is a tyrant. BushCo is in their last throes.

[HereSince1628]

16. I share that hope, but knowing someone is a tyrant is not

the same as ending their reign. There is yet time for much misgovernment.

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. The wheels are coming off the cart at this point

and unless BushCo launches a nuclear war, I don't see them remaining in power for much longer. They will probably make one last grab at turning the US into a military state but they've lost their mojo, they won't get away with it. I just hope they don't create too many more New Orleans before they go.

[Divernan]

7. A pack of blood thirsty, power drunk, money grubbing megalomaniacs

enabled by a benchful of feeble, intimidated Supreme Court (in)justices.

[EFerrari]

9. He seems to be confusing the office of the prez with

the Wizard of Oz.

[acmavm]

10. Used the perfect words to appeal to a delusional nutcase. If that doesn't

tell the world what kind of a danger bush** is to be that nuts, nothing else will.

[BamaBecky]

14. Back the train up!

I don't remember voting for that!

Bama

[Loonman]

20. Seig!!!

HEIL!

[Arkana]

23. Ain't that what Nixon thought? You know, right before they took him down?

Power drunk bastards. They'll get theirs.

[VaYallaDawg]

24. They've finally revealed exactly what their "Faith" is!!!!

[Deja Q]

25. To quote one of my favorite TV shows:

"WE SHALL BECOME ALL POWERFUL! CRUSH THE LESSER RACES! CONQUER THE WORLD! UNIMAGINABLE POWER! UNLIMITED RICE PUDDING!!! ET CETERA!! ET CETERA!!"

[robbedvoter]

27. Creating their own reality - remember this?

''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And
while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll
act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and
that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you,
all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''
Bush aide to Ron Suskind

[milkyway]

30. I vote for nefarious bastard.

Wilkerson blamed Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and like-minded aides. He said Cheney must have sincerely believed that Iraq could be a spawning ground for new terror assaults, because "otherwise I have to declare him a moron, an idiot or a nefarious bastard."


ne·far·i·ous adj. Infamous by way of being extremely wicked.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nefarious

[Seen the light]

31. Richard Nixon anybody?

The god complexes most presidents have shown are disturbing. We seriously might need to think about modifying the powers of the presidency.

[MN ChimpH8R]

32. * and Crashcart's cartoon counterparts

[indepat]

34. Image, smimage, they don't give a diddledy-f*ck about anything but their

agenda IMHO.

[The Sleeper]

35. "All Powerful, eh ?", thinks George......

"Condi, Quick Fetch my Divan ! Me and the Tides are gonna settle things for once and all ! Tides, your days of rising and falling are numbered, pal!!"

[Kber]

36. You mean like the wizard of Oz?

[NuttyFluffers]

38. apparently more like Pharoah

except he wants 'nations built' to honor him instead of mere pyramids.

[Marie26]

37. Go Wilkerson!

From talking about the "Cheney cabal" to revealing the Bush Adminstration's attitude toward the Geneva Convention, he's been confirming everything that Bush critics have been saying for years. Now there's someone from the inside who's willing to speak out. It's a lot harder for people to dismiss Powell's chief of staff than, say, Micheal Moore. I just wish Colin Powell could join him.
This is a great quote: Cheney must have sincerely believed that Iraq could be a spawning ground for new terror assaults, because "otherwise I have to declare him a moron, an idiot or a nefarious bastard." :rofl:

[NuttyFluffers]

39. why do i find this hysterically funny?

:rofl:
there's just something so... completing, a sense of closure, to this madness, the madness of king george. he's "all-powerful" bwahahaha! he's like GAWD! he's da 2nd coming of jeebus!
:rofl: :rofl: :spray: :spray:
so... like what megalomaniacal tyrant is bush like today? let's spin that wheel!