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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 12:22 PM
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Hey, it took 10 years for Vietnam to be saved from Communism.
Ten years from Johnson's buildup to victory over Communism
in 1975. Ten years to save Southeast Asia from the Communist
dominoes. Ten years for Vietnamization to succeed. What if
we had pulled out in 1965? Let's have the decency to give
ourselves at least ten years in Iraq for Iraqization and to keep
the Islamic dominoes from falling in the Middle East. We'll
be glad we did.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 12:29 PM
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1. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was easy enough to fake.
News traveled a lot slower back then. Bush merely relied on America's racist tendencies, 9-11 + Iraq = What the hell? They're all brown people.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:45 PM
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3. Sometimes you have to destroy the truth in order to save it.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 12:42 PM
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2. 10 years and 58,000 americans killed. n/t
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:52 PM
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4. And what did we learn?
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:55 PM
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5. Last time I looked, Viet Nam was still a communist state. What am I
missing here? Not only a communist state, but one with normalized relations with the US!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:56 PM
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6. That cannot be.
Are you sure? WTF?
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:16 PM
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7. Well, don't fault me for sharing facts!
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:32 PM
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8. Hello Brain Dead.....
Remember this name....Wadestock.

Read my posts.

I don't come here often....

But when I see such detachments from reality like this...

Well...


1. Desert Storm could have been politically resolved, expect Bush I decided it was time to "draw a line in the sand"....and pulverize a nation that the Saudi's suddenly thought might be a problem. End result, over 100,000 innocent people dead.
2. During 10 years of inspections more weapons were destroyed than the entire Desert Storm campaign...taking away Saddam's ability to deploy any weapons of any significance.
3. After Bushco. "Regime Change" campaign, a total of at least another 100,000 innocent people have been killed in Iraq.
4. Due to Bushco. dehumanization of the enemy, etc etc...at least 40% of the public have deep routed hatred for America...and there is growing stress that America is in fact an occupying force due to construction of 12 Army bases there, etc etc.

There are many experts that have come forth and will continue to come forth that will point out the obvious.
If you are sick enough to believe that a country can come in and surgically remove a ruling party.....and then expect that the country will rally behind the occupying force...

Well....

You better make PRIORITY #1 the safety...
And the security ....
Of the PEOPLE.

After the first 3 hours of this flawed REGIME CHANGE...
The only thing that was protected.
Was the oil fields.



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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:46 PM
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11. Wow are you ever smart!
Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 08:59 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
I'll be sure to read all your posts!
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 09:02 PM
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15. Tune in Air America
for at least a week and then report back
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:53 PM
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19. Tune in period, O Slow One.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:33 PM
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9. I know. It's difficult to swallow the facts after the loss of 58,000 US
soldiers. But the sad, sad truth breaks your heart. And if anyone thinks that fighting a war on terrorism makes any sense at all they need their head examined.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:47 PM
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12. I'm sure we'll do better in Iraq than we did in Vietnam.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:38 PM
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10. delete
Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 08:40 PM by me b zola
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:49 PM
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13. You need to add the little "sarcasm" smiley to your remarks,
otherwise people might think you're serious.

You ARE kidding, I hope?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:50 PM
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14. When they serve iced tea in hell.
I like to see if there's anybody dumber than me out there.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 09:19 PM
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16. Is this a parody post?
'Cause VietNam is a unified Communist state. Saigon was re-named Ho Chi Min City.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:55 PM
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20. Well, we did our best.
Hopefully we learned lessons in Vietnam
that we can apply to Iraq.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:09 PM
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17. And we're still 51,000 names shy of a new Wall.
So fo course we need to Stay The Course until we Get The Job Done.

Redstone
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:56 PM
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21. The Iraq Wall.
Oh God.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:59 PM
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18. and our interventions in laos and cambodia, too!
look at the beacons of freedom they've been!
:evilgrin:
if only we applied any of these policies to latin america... i mean, look at how they've faired without any of our fair-handed, wise guidance? truly, great white father of the north should be listened to, for he does know best!
:evilgrin:
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:57 PM
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22. And by intervening elsewhere we kept China Communist-free too!
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