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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:07 PM
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Scientific American on the flu pandemic. Read Link
Edited on Wed Nov-23-05 11:44 PM by greblc
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:08 PM
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1. bad link
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:27 PM
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8. Link has been fixed. Important article. I read it and feel quite...
vulnerable.

I've been sick all week and don't know what I've got...
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:09 PM
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2. link is broken....
eom
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:28 PM
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9. It's fixed now. n/t
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:14 PM
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3. Nothing like a flu pandemic threat to make everyone look the other way.
Is there? How conveeeennnnient.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:18 PM
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5. Three sure ways to spook the herd:
"Terror, terror, terror!"

"Your children are not safe ... oh, won't you think of the children!"

"Well, at least you have your health ... or do you!"



Americans are fools.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:22 PM
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7. We can multi-task... this is a serious and very alarming article.
I have to say that Scientific American did a good job in researching this.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:16 PM
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4. I'd write this of as hype if it wasn't being talked about in every nation.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:20 PM
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6. Yes, but other nations seem to be actually trying to do something.
What is OUR government doing? Screwing the pooch, as usual.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:31 PM
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10. I was listening to Epidemiologist Mike Olsterholm
on Minnesota Public Radio Today. The World opinion is it is too late to do anything but minimize the global impact. He also said it would be physically impossible to increase va cine production to the level needed to vaccinate the U.S. or any other Nation. I've heard it said that even if a Manhattan Project type approach was give to develop and produce vaccines it would still be to little to late. Mr.Olsterholm also said no amount of money could overcome the problem. Read the Article.

Happy Thanksgiving!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:33 PM
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11. I'm not trying to minimize the threat. I'm saying Bushco is screwing us.
Edited on Wed Nov-23-05 11:35 PM by Carolab
Dubya to bird flu: Bring it on!

What better thing to kill scores of troublesome "eaters" and keep the public's mind off the fascism that has overtaken them?

How easy now to declare martial law and give Bush his dictatorship.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:39 PM
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13. He was just in Asia and is as vulnerable to the Bird Flu
as anyone else. Vaccines help but are no guarantee.
This likley pandemic will put all Politics aside. It's bigger and nastier than Bush Co.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:35 PM
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12. Damn...now I won't be able to sleep.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:46 PM
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14. Fear puts tremendous stress on the body's immune system ...
Edited on Wed Nov-23-05 11:49 PM by FlemingsGhost
thus making it susceptible to diseases it might otherwise easily fend off.

Your not doing anybody any favors, here. In fact, you might actually be doing harm to those with impressionable compulsive, obsessive minds.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:04 AM
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15. So bury your head in the sand? Preparedness never hurt anyone.
Edited on Thu Nov-24-05 12:05 AM by greblc
What does anyone plan to do? Share some ideas. Discuss. There seems to be little one can do to prevent becoming ill with the Bird Flu. So how will we care for loved ones?
Prepare for millions of ill people?Handle thousands of bodies? Endure economic hardship? This isn't me asking these questions. It's Public Health Officials.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:07 AM
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16. Remember SARS?
Stop being afraid. You'll live longer.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:14 AM
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17. Viruses take tough guys out too.
Influenza H5N1 isn't just the sniffles. Pandemics happen.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 01:43 AM
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18. Mark Twain said it best:
"I'm an old man, and I've seen many troubles ... most of which never happened."

*Ahhh-choo!*


Oh, my god! LOL ...
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 09:14 AM
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19. What does fear have to do with it?
There is a potential threat on the horizon; one can research it, do whatever practical things will make one safer and then get on with life.

There is a huge difference between being afraid and being an informed person who takes precautions.

Of course, no amount of precautions guarantee safety, but there is no harm in loading the dice in your favor.

We've all got to die sometime, I might get hit on the head tomorrow by a meteorite for all I know, but I don't go worrying about that either. No need, not with my tinfoil hat to protect me. ;-)
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:43 AM
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20. As I read some of the above posts about this being nothing but fear
induced hysteria by Bush, I couldn't help but think how terrible Bush is. The reason being that while the rest of the world is taking this possible pandemic seriously, some here now think, since it's Bush, it's all a bunch of fear mongering. If the President happened to be Gore, Kerry or any other reasonable (believed in science) person, these same people would probably care more and look at the science of the flu.

Having said that, Bush has not done enough to prepare the US for this and I can understand where people would think this is Bush using fear. After all, it is his M.O. However, when the rest of the world is concerned, I take notice that this is bigger than Bush.
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