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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:30 AM
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US Kicked Out Of Uzbekistan
Edited on Wed Nov-23-05 08:54 AM by dutchdemocrat
US Kicked Out Of Uzbekistan

The Government of Uzbekistan has expelled the former superpower from its territory and the US has quit its airbase in the country.

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/09/28/ustoleave.shtml

The U.S. had regarded its Karshi-Khanabad, or K2, base in Uzbekistan as crucial for its drug dealing operation in Afghanistan, and the eviction will complicate US efforts to continue its illegal occupation there. (poster's license - sarcasm)

“We intend to leave without further discussion. We respect this request by the government of Uzbekistan,” said a US spokesperson.

The ignominious exit comes about after the CIA and the US Embassy in Tashkent were implicated by the Uzbeks in the recent uprising in Andijan.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:34 AM
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1. gee, and they were one of our 'New Europe' members of the
Coalition of the Billing, er Willing.

So much for Rummy's love affair with the stans.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:58 AM
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8. They were so helpful in other ways too
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:35 AM
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2. Uzbeks!
(For any SCTV fans out there; Hey Giorgy!)

Uzbekistan is the country where the dictator was boiling his dissidents alive...
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:41 AM
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4. Islam Karimov, he's a sweetheart and maybe the next "Saddam" too
:)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:47 AM
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10. Chimpy has just the nicest chums....
And his ties to this thug go back to 1997!

http://www.democrats.com/node/4773



Here Karimov is with Rumsfeld in a pose that may remind you of other occasions...



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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:50 AM
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12. He'll be "Hitler Revisited" soon enough
Plenty of oil in Central Asia too. Hmmmmm......
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 10:09 AM
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14. If Chimpy can't say "nucular" how's he gonna say "oozestbikan"??
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 10:23 AM
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15. BAHAHAHAHA
you have a point.

:rofl:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 10:38 AM
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16. "Oobzestikan.... Zoobamiland...."
Glad I made you laugh....

By the way, what does it say that under the GOP not only have our real friends been alienated, but even the tinhorn dictators we prop up feel they can give us the finger when they feel like it without any consequence.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 10:51 AM
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17. hey Kyrgyztan booted us out too
you know, the French, our good friends for a long, long time who gave us the Statue of Liberty would rather not even deal with us at all. Bush is the most hated and least respected President worldwide ever. Not even close. We're mortgaging off our future and national security to China. North Korea thumbs their nose at us too. Pakistan refuses to allow U.S. troops go after bin Laden in their country, right along the border with Afghanistan.

What it says is that our international standing has never been so low. That it's going to take generations to repair what these guys did. It's an embarassment. And, even tinhorn dictators like Islam Karimov see that the U.S. is bogged down in Iraq and we aren't in much of a situation to do anything about it. What's Bush going to do? Invade Uzbekistan? With what? Where will the troops come from? How will he get support for an invasion, or even bombings. He can't. What's he going to do, go to the U.N. and seek help from our security council friends who he alienated? Fuck no. He can't. So, the most powerful leader of the most powerful country in the history of the world gets to stand by while a pissant strongman in a former Soviet Republic makes him look like a punk. Frankly, most people won't realize this. Very few people ever will know who Islam Karimov is. But, to people like you and I, and for our government, it's a major embarassment. You can thank Bush for reducing us to this level. I only hope that our next president is great enough to bring back some of our honor and dignity.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:07 AM
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18. But Mxyztplk is still Chimpy's ally...
"What's Bush going to do? Invade Uzbekistan? With what? Where will the troops come from?"
Exactly so.

"What's he going to do, go to the U.N. and seek help from our security council friends who he alienated?"
Ironically, all of the right wing's attacks on the Un in recent years have only served to raise their prestige higher witht eh entire rest of the world.

"So, the most powerful leader of the most powerful country in the history of the world gets to stand by while a pissant strongman in a former Soviet Republic makes him look like a punk."
And pResident Turd was dumb enough to maneuver himself (and by extension) into a lose-lose situation AGAIN.

Your post reminds me of how the Turks fleeced this imbecile out of billions in taxpayer dollars while doing a crafty toe dance to the tune of "Yes, we'll be in the coaltion, no. we'll never join." In the end he threw dough at them with both hands and got them into NATO...and they turned around said "Fuck you very much."
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:23 AM
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19. yes, definitely...
the Turks flat out embarassed this fool. Oh man, wake me up from this nightmare! I mean honestly, the guy wrecked an idiot-proof segway! It takes a special kind of stupid to do that. :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:53 AM
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24. The whole point of the Segway was that even invalids could ride it safely
and this idiot fell off....

Hell, he nearly killed himself "eating a pretzel" (and remember, that's being charitable and not assuming he banged his face on the floor in a drunken stupor).
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:56 AM
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26. Another golden moment for the history books...
Edited on Wed Nov-23-05 11:59 AM by MrBenchley
Let's not forget this imbecile sashaying around the G-8 conference with his fly open....



The look on Putin's face says it all....
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:05 PM
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27. you ever wonder what a guy like Putin thinks about Bush?
He used to be a KGB officer. He just recently flew a plane and broke the sound barrier. Putin is a tough, tough dude. I bet he just thinks "I could snap this cheerleader's neck with my bare hands." LOL

Oh the guy is an embarassment. No two ways about it. When he tried to walk out a locked door the other day I was like "oh no, here we go again, now the whole world gets to make stupid american jokes at us."

Oh, when he ran into that police officer and wrecked his bike at the G-8 in Scotland. He sent the poor guy to the hospital, haha. Lord this man is fucking stupid. Please help our country.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:09 PM
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29. You know, what's never mentioned aloud in public
is that Osama almost certainly knows pResident Fucko first hand, and clearly has no respect for him.

Remember, Chimpy was trying to get out the locked door in China because he was throwing a pissy little snit over a reporter's question.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:23 PM
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30. yes, the guy told him he wasn't on his "game"
and he acted like a little kid who just had his candy stolen from him.

Bin Laden has no respect for Bush at all. No way! Not only that Osama has outclassed Bush badly since day one. I love it when RWers say that Osama is scared of Bush etc. Bush has given the guy everything he ever wanted and made him the most respected and revered Islamic leader since Saladin. Talk about a blunder of epic proportions! History will not be kind to Bush at all. You might as well flush this guy's presidency down the toilet and he still has three years left.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:48 PM
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31. For all the right wing's talk about "appeasement"
it's been Chimpy who bent over backwards to appease Osama....
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:53 PM
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32. no doubt about that
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:41 AM
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21. Bush pressed them too hard..to "Buy a vowel" ?
:)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:43 AM
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23. yeah that sounds about right
LOL

:)
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:47 AM
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6. I used to watch his show on 'three-cee-pee-one'!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:42 AM
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9. TV Land has started running reruns of those shows....
But only some of them...I keep hoping the Schmenge Brothers will turn up...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:42 AM
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22. "Hey Yorgi! Uzbeks drank my battery fluid!
Uposcrabblenyk:
Anna comes up with a 28 letter word for dog, but loses on a technicality....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:06 PM
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28. Priceless stuff....
Count Floyd's "Monster Chiller Horror Theatre owoooooo!...ooh today, kids, we got a really scary film...we got Showboat — SHOWBOAT!?!? What the hell?????!"
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:38 AM
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3. "its drug dealing operation in Afghanistan" ???
The text doesn't read that way anymore:

The U.S. had regarded its Karshi-Khanabad, or K2, base in Uzbekistan as crucial for its mission in Afghanistan, and the eviction will complicate efforts to end the fighting.



Hmmmm
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:41 AM
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5. yeah, what the eff is with that?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:56 AM
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7. Freudian slip? Jab? Typo (meaning drug *fighting*)?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:50 AM
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11. Isn't this country that has a horrific human rights record, where the
leader has actually boiled people in oil and thrown them off of walls? The same country that we were giving millions of dollars in aid to????
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:52 AM
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13. yup
although, they may just actually boil people regular style, not in oil. I've heard both. I mean thank god, at least we aren't dealing with savages over there you know? Freedom... democracy.. all of that stuff is what matters to this WH, you know?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:37 AM
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20. Oh yes! Only get rid of the tyrants that aren't advantageous for you.
Edited on Wed Nov-23-05 11:37 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
I used to have debates on AOL message boards about this all the time. The big problem is that Dem lawmakers have been silent on this, where it appears that they are complicit. The same way they have been more or less silent on PNAC(and never mentioning it by name), and less than a handful screaming about the Downing Street Memos (Minutes). Between these and the fact that we are presently building permanent bases in Iraq, we have enough ammo to bring this sociopathic administration down to its knees. If the Dems were able to get media exposure recently...Murtha, and the Senate Democrats re Intelligence, why won't any of them manage to address these so important points???

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 11:54 AM
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25. status quo Dems
seem to get too entrenched in the DC life. Cocktail parties, the cushy exposure on MTP, Face The Nation, Hardball. That and they just have been cowed for the last decade by the 'Pub attack machine. They also just seem handcuffed by polls, they want move unless they think they can do something that benefits them politically. If they do stand up then they get attacked and face serious trouble in their reelections. That's why they barely fought to even get Gore his rightful spot as president. Cynthia McKinney did and she was labeled as a nut and lost reelection. She's back now, but still that's a tough road to hoe.

They just don't seem to have the nuts to rock the boat all that much. It's disheartening for sure. Republicans give us enough ammo to nail them to the wall. Even on seemingly little things. Bush and Cheney's financial dealings are far more serious than Whitewater was. But the Republican's have no shame. They took something that was nothing and turned it into a huge investigation that culminated in the Lewinsky affair. Clinton was impeached for the investigation of an investigation of an investigation that was thrown out of courty yet he supposedly impeded by not admitting to a blowjob. It's a stretch at best. But Republicans don't care about gall. They'll do whatever they can to be in power and attack whomever stands in their way. Dems just aren't like that. To the point that the status quo is merely a weak branch of the Washington elite. They aren't really in touch with us regular Dems. When was the last time Joe Leiberman spoke for you? That's what we're dealing with.
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