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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:09 AM
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Failure Notice, Return Mail - New Email Scam?
Recently I have been receiving many "Failure Notice" and "Return Mail" notifications from emails I never sent. This is troubling me.

I ask, "Are these emails really being sent from my computer without my knowledge and authorizations?"

Or are these just new type of spam mailings (scams) made to look like Failure Notice/Return Mail notifications designed to get me to open up the thing?

Has anyone else been experiencing this or is the trouble within my system? Thanx in advance for your thoughts.

FYI - I run Win XP, Zone Alarm Pro and an Anti-Virus programs.

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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:10 AM
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1. I've gotten these too-plus one from the "FBI"
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:26 AM
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9. The FBI one is a virus.........
under NO circumstances should you open it!
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vptpt Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:13 AM
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2. I was getting some of those
Everyday, I'd have 4 of them. I changed my password and they immediately stopped. Maybe that was just coincidence, but it made me a little paranoid. It's been a couple months though, and I haven't gotten any more of them.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:15 AM
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4. You mean you changed your password for DU?
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 08:17 AM by INdemo
or email sign in??
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vptpt Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:24 AM
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8. Email password
I'm sorry, it's too early to think clearly.

But yeah, I changed my email password. It probably didn't have anything to do with it, but it seemed interesting.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:15 AM
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3. Yes -
-- someone/thing has apparently hijacked your mail server to send OUT a virus that also comes back to you in the 'returned mail' notification.

It his my company's server last spring, and was sending "emails" that looked like they were on some sort of mailing list, all overseas.

DON'T OPEN THEM !!!!!
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:23 AM
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7. Are You Saying ...
hijacked the mail server I use on the Internet? Or do you mean the program (hijacker) is on my computer (my anti-virus/firewall programs find nothing)?
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 10:49 AM
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22. I'm not sure, exactly.
I work at an insurance company and it got into our mail server, and cherry picked some people's accounts to start sending the crap from.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:16 AM
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5. New SPAM SCAM!
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:16 AM
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6. I believe they are being sent from a spammer,
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 08:17 AM by Rufus T. Firefly
but faking your e-mail address as the "reply-to." I've gotten them too.

Viruses can do that too, though.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:26 AM
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10. This is why I don't open anything at all
unless it is from a person or company/organization I recognize, AND expect an email from. I don't even open emails from my bank or from places I've shopped at.
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:37 AM
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11. Yes. I got one just this morning. It had a zip attachment and I deleted
that sucker faster than you can imagine!
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canichelouis Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:38 AM
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12. I've been getting them too
they end up in junk mail. I've had more junk than usual.
I never open anything I'm not familiar with.
I am suspicious. I notice many posts here about this. What's up?
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:40 AM
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13. What's happening is that either you or someone who has your email
in their address book has a virus on their system. The virus replicates itself and to hide it's origin and make the receiver think the email is from a friend, it grabs email addresses off of the infected system to put into an email which it then broadcasts out to tons of other email addresses. Some of the email addresses that the virus tries to send to are bogus so you get the failed message back on your system.

I would suggest a scan of your system to make sure you are safe. Other than that, it would be hard to tell who exactly has it on their system if not you.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:52 AM
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14. Bingo. It is most likely coming from someone you know who has a virus
The virus searches their address book, picks an address at random for the "From" field and for the "To" field and sends itself out. When it goes out with your address as the "From" address, and the recipients system rejects it because of a virus infection, it returns to the apparent origin, i.e. your address.
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frogbison Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:00 AM
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15. My email automatically opens
by clicking on it. (I have to click on it to delete it.) However, I can delete w/o opening attachments. I've never seen anything in preferences that will stop an email from opening just from selecting it. Much better would be a double-click.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:07 AM
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16. You need to fix that, Mr. or Ms. or Mrs. person. EEEh gads.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:20 AM
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19. By "automatically opens," do you mean the Preview Pane?
Are you using Outlook or Outlook express?

If so, just turn that off (it's in View -> Preview Pane). That way you can look at just the subject header and delete it without having to view the email.
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canichelouis Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:58 AM
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20. Get rid of Outlook
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frogbison Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:28 PM
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23. It's actually Apple's mail program
Version 2.0.2 (732/733) Running on my Mac G5, relatively new.

Will try to look under "Help"
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:44 PM
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25. Why get rid of outlook is there a problem with it, I have it on my older
mac and it has been ok so far.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:08 AM
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17. It sounds like someone used your email address to send spam
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 09:10 AM by Gman
most outgoing email servers (there is an incoming server (usually POP3 or similar and an outgoing server, SMTP) now require your login as well as the same password you use for your outgoing email account. It could be that if you have an easy password for your email that someone figured it out and used your email and password to send spam. What you're getting is messages from the SMTP server advising of problems delivering the sent mail.

You may want to change your email password (which may require changing your password for your ISP) in order to prevent this from happening.

Spammers are constantly looking for SMTP servers to send their spam with so it's important that SMTP servers require a login and password to send email. THere is a list of domains out there that are "open" (i.e. no password required) and many incoming email servers will not accept email from them because they are capable of sending spam. So most responsible admins of email servers now require passwords for SMTP servers.

I maintain email servers for a couple of companies and every day I see "Relay Denied" in the log along with an email address that doesn't exist on our server because someone tried to use our server to send spam.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:12 AM
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18. My virus app
Avast, went off nine times this morning. SMTP failure and something about Paris Hilton. It was listed as the Sober-AB2 worm.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 10:48 AM
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21. What is the point of spam, anyways?
I mean - who the hell knowingly OPENS those things?

And if opened, what idiot responds to anything that could possibly be in them?

So, what's the point of them?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:29 PM
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24. MAKE SURE YOUR ACCOUNT WASN'T COMPROMISED
Check your sent box. If there are about 100 emails of spam then someone used your account. Happened to me on aol several times already.
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