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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:27 PM
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A much needed reminder...
Most have already seen this, but it's a great reminder and can't be reminded enough...This may be a bit dated, but still, the point is made!



20 AMAZING FACTS ABOUT VOTING IN THE USA

by Angry Girl
Nightweed.com


1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold


2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html


3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html


4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.";/b]
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886


5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html


6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php


7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm
http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html


8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.
http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html


9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html


10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm


11. Diebold is based in Ohio.
http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm


12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as consultants and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml


13. Jeff Dean was Senior Vice-President of Global Election Systems when it was bought by Diebold. Even though he had been convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree, Jeff Dean was retained as a consultant by Diebold and was largely responsible for programming the optical scanning software now used in most of the United States.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0312/S00191.htm
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf


14. Diebold consultant Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf


15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.
http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html


16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here: http://www.bbvdocs.org/videos/baxterVPR.mov.)
http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190


17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml


18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm
http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html
http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=950
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm


19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/7628725.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10544-2004Oct29.html


20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,10801,97614,00.html
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html
http://uscountvotes.org/

Want a cheap, fair, reliable, and efficient alternative? It exists!
Check out the Swiss Voting System
at http://www.swissvs.org

http://nightweed.com/usavotefacts.html
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:29 PM
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1. Yes and if you haven't seen this go here
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:30 PM
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2. thanks
I saw it again in Ohio this fall all dems win in Columbus but
the election reform issues go down better then 2 to 1?
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:37 PM
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6. I'm sure you caught this a few days ago...
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 10:37 PM by Zinfandel
The Staggeringly Impossible Results of Ohio's '05 Election,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brad-friedman/the-staggeringly-impossib_b_10589.html

This site has a lot of different info and writers...
http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/election-fraud.htm
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:31 PM
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3. Agreed and recommended
Priority One!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:35 PM
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4. Bookmarked!! Thanks for the excellent compilation. n/t
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:41 PM
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9. Thank "angrygirl" !!!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:11 PM
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15. I will! Thanks angrygirl!
:yourock:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:36 PM
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5. K&R!
Thanks for the great post! :thumbsup:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:40 PM
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7. I'm e-mailing these facts to all my contacts.. thanks
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:40 PM
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8. Recommended.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:45 PM
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10. kicked and nominated... thanks Zinf. Worth bookmarking!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:48 PM
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11. I agree, everyone should bookmark (favorites) this, as a reminder.
And sent off to their friends...
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:55 PM
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12. well done! thanks for putting that together for us....
:hi:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:57 PM
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13. Thank you zinfandel and angrygirl !
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:01 PM
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14. Number 14, (on the list) pretty much sums it up! n/t
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 11:07 PM by LaPera
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:53 PM
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16. very good post...
its amazing at how corrupt the election process has become...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:09 AM
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17. K&R. It's a shame that Hagel looks more like a Trojan Horse
than someone we could really work with.

He comes close when he speaks, but there isn't enough trust to believe his motives.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:12 AM
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18. This needs to be kicked, as a reminder...It truly needs...
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 01:58 AM by Zinfandel
to be recognized, simply, because so very little has been done to up to this point, even after all this time. Democrats in congress have two bills in the house right now addressing this issue, but of course the republicans won't let the bills see the light of day...reach the floor, nor will they ever, (it's NOT to their advantage)...We've got to do something, anything, or we'll just be "kicking" ourselves again, as election after election that the republicans want will continue to be stolen...Please.

:kick:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:22 AM
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19. kick (nt)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:55 AM
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20. .


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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:13 AM
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21. Very important!
:kick:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:23 AM
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22. kick
:kick:
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:53 AM
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23. Oldie, but goody
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SeanQ Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:28 PM
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24. Can we email this to every senator and congresman? Or at least
all the Dem's?!?

I'll email it to my list.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:50 PM
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25. KICK!
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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26. k/r
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