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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:47 AM
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Sauerkraut may cure Bird Flu.
"Scientists in Seoul believe the German cabbage contains a bacteria that fights the disease.

Researchers fed 11 out of 13 chickens infected with avian flu with fermented cabbage - the chickens showed signs of recovery within a week."

Ananova http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1610560.html?menu=...

Rummy will be so disappointed if this works.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:49 AM
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1. Cool, I actually like sauerkraut
Wonder if kim chi works on bird flu too.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:49 AM
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2. I thought it was kimchee (made w/ a chinese variety of cabbage)
not sauerkraut? oh well, whatever works.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:57 PM
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31. It IS kim chee. The press release is incomplete.
Think about it. Why would the Koreans be testing sauerkraut? Their own version of fermented cabbage is kim chee.
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:50 AM
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3. and i thought it was the methane gas from the flatulence caused
by the sauerkraut that was offing the h5n1 virus . . . hey, whatever it takes. :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:54 AM
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4. HMMMmmmmmmmmm.
A deeply, deeply sceptical Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Fermented cabbage (kimchi) is the national dish in SK, as previous posters have pointed out.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:56 AM
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5. Oh, man, I love sauerkraut.
Love, love, love that stuff. So do my kids.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:56 AM
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6. Nursing mothers have used cabbage transdermally to help with
engorgement of the breasts for ages now. There seems to be some scientific evidence to support this.

I keep wonder who did what in order to discover this in the first place.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:11 AM
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22. Hadn't heard that but my guess is that the way these things catch crumbs
when we eat that it wasn't hard to figure out about the cabbage. *lol*
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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:02 AM
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7. Oh, joy, there go Rummy's millions from Tamiflu! n/t
:rofl:
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:04 AM
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8. They should test
chocolate. I think chocolate might work.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:09 AM
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9. I hate sauerkraut.
But I'd eat gob-fuls of it if it meant keeping money out of Rummy's pocket.

:evilgrin:
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:19 AM
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10. I asked my girlfriend, an EMT, what she thought about this
She said it's probably the vinegar that helps kill the bacteria. We use vinegar to clean the outdoor bird feeders in the spring and fall. Can't use detergents because they can kill the birds, but vinegar is a natural cleaner.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:21 AM
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11. I have a huge jar in the fridge!
Been there about ten years. It is probably REALLY well fermented by now.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:24 AM
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12. throw.it.out.now
10 years? My God, that thing is toxic waste by now.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:30 AM
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13. I almost think I'd rather have the flu.
I loathe sauerkraut- and my heritage is GERMAN, damn it!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:52 AM
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14. same here..
my grandparents are from Bismark. I hate the stuff! :puke:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:57 AM
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15. Lol - I love sauerkraut - funny knowing the people who hate it could die
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 10:58 AM by Mr_Spock
simply because they dislike the cure :rofl:

J/K
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:59 AM
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16. I hate sauerkraut with a violent passion!
I'm not sure whether dying from the bird flu would be worse than wishing I were dead because I have to eat sauerkraut all winter long.

Just the thought of eating one bite of sauerkraut makes me want to hurl.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:59 AM
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17. I'm gonna die then
:puke:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:01 AM
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18. At the turn of the last century, there was a virus that was killing
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 11:01 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
chickens in our country. A doctor (the great uncle of a friend of mine) discovered that black tea killed that virus, and the epidemic ended. He told me this as I was suffering from a mouth herpes infection (viral) and drinking black tea (which includes black, orange pekoe and oolang) cleared the infection immediately. Now anytime I have a virus coming on, or being exposed to the flu (my kids have brought it home a few times from school), I ward them off by drinking several cups of black tea.
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:03 AM
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19. Only as a side dish to bratwurst -- and even then I'd have to...
hold my nose.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:04 AM
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20. And scurvey, too...just in case.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:10 AM
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21. I don't think they mean sauerkraut. I think they mean kim chee.
At least, that's the research article that I saw. Kim chee is also fermented cabbage.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:12 AM
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23. German cabage, taht is sauerkrat
different ways of making it, and far better tasting than kemchee
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:13 AM
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24. why did it have to be kim chee?
saurkraut i can handle...but kim chee just grosses me out.
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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:23 AM
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25. Yes, it's possible, I found this...
Kimchi Effective in Fighting Bird Flu

``A veterinarian at an Indonesian zoo asked us to send our animal feed additive, which contains the bacteria leuconostoc citreum, a type of lactobacillus found in kimchi, said Lee Jong-Dae, president of Celltech International.

``We are sure that the additive will work in treating fowls with the avian influenza as our tests have shown that local chickens that were fed the additive had a much stronger immune system against a wide array of viruses compared to ones that it was not given to, he said.

The Korea Times 10/12/05
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200510/kt2005101...
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:37 AM
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26. I love patty melt sandwiches, so I guess I'll enjoy the cure...
CAN this be true? Could it really be so simple to fight?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:15 PM
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27. i think it'd rather die
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 12:17 PM by pitohui
which is worse, kim chee or sauerkraut, that's a tough call
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:22 PM
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29. Cabbage is f'in nasty in general
I have family outside Yuma, AZ...Once in a while, the cabbage fields out there rot and you would not believe the resulting STENCH that lingers around in the farm towns East of Yuma. It's really, really bad...

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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:17 PM
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28. Hunkie Penicillin!
Mom always said that sauerkraut was "Hunkie penicillin". I guess she was right! :D
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:33 PM
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30. My dad tricked his greedy dog with sauerkraut.
He had one dog that was so greedy and aggressive that it would run to the food dish and scarf up all the food in one mouthful to keep the other dog from getting any. One day Dad filled the dish with sauerkraut and called the dogs. The greedy dog gulped up a huge mouthful, got the most shocked look and started spitting it out. Dad almost hurt himself laughing.

:rofl:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:08 PM
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32. Woo hoo! I LOVE suarkraut! I am going to have some tonight! No bird
flu for me! :woohoo:
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:44 PM
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33. I am just wondering what possessed them to feed birds cabbage.n/t
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