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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:47 PM
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You are being video taped while you "Cart Wal-Mart"
I don't know if there is any law on it. Maybe a DU lawyer could give some info on that.

But if you are going to make it a practice, they will be able to ID you eventually.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:48 PM
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1. I would never do it, but. . .
I don't see how it could possibly be illegal.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:55 PM
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4. you are doing something with the INTENT to cause harm....
like or not what you are doing is an intentional act on your part to cause financial harm to walmart by increasing their operating costs to clean up after you and/or disrupting their business.

that is different than if you were shopping and decided you did not need or want an item for that reason and discarded it, or abandoned your cart because you did not have enought to buy the items or got a very importanat cell phone call that your house was on fire.

If somebody came in your yard and turned everything over would you feel kindly towards that person even if they did not in fact break anything that was turned over?

Msongs
www.msongs.com/chinamart.htm

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:47 PM
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13. You spend all day shopping
& then realize you forgot your wallet. :evilgrin:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:52 PM
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2. I think this is defined under the Patriot act as "economic terrorism".
No joke. I haven't looked into it that much but there were a whole host of things that got the terrorism suffix. Basically, sit-ins other shenanigans which went on in the 60's may be classified as economic terrorism. I'd love to be wrong wrong wrong about this. Maybe someone can research to see what's actually on the books or under the Patriot Act?

Much thanks!

PB
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:52 PM
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3. I forsee the friendly elderly "welcomers"
at the WalMart entrance replaced by Pinkertaons and Haliburton goons
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:55 PM
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5. Sounds like a "secondary boycott" to me
but I'm not a lawyer, I'm a secondary boycotter.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:57 PM
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6. So fucking what?
You go to the store and realize you left your wallet at home....there's no law against not buying stuff...there's no law against shopping and changing your mind.

You know, for a rootin' tootin' gunslinger who elsewhere thumps his chest and boasts about how you're going to "fight tyranny" with your popgun, you sure seem afraid of a retail store...
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:47 PM
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14. I'm not
I always carry when I shop at a Walmart.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:56 PM
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15. LOL!!
How pathetic hilarious, er, manly of you....

"I faced down the bloodthirsty housewives in the personal electronics aisle of death"....(snicker)
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:05 PM
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16. I went into a Walmart once to buy some furnace filters
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 02:08 PM by Retired AF Dem
no other place to buy them in my neck of the woods. Like always Walmart had changed everything around so I had to go searching for them. I made a turn from one aisle to another and came face to face with a guy I know just finished hiding an item under his coat. He looked at me with crazy eyes like I was some store detective that had caught him in the act. I brushed my jacket back a little, he noticed my Colt on my hip and than we both continued on our business as nothing had happened. Of course in your perfect world I would have been shot or stabbed for being miss id'ed as a store detective. And if you think about it a moment you would have to agree that your alter ego, "Bob" would agree. :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:26 PM
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21. True Guts Adventure...(snicker)
"your alter ego, "Bob" would agree."
Yeah. Bob Boudelang is crazy enough to toddle around with a pop gun in his pants imagining adventures like that...but he is the scum of the earth.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:56 PM
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24. Hahahahaha....
"Unlike you or your other alter ego (billbuckhead) I dont lie. "
Pull the other one.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:21 PM
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18. I think I'll use this opportunity to agree with you
Can you imagine - "shopping without intent of buying" - a felony with a maximum prison sentence of 50 lashes with a wet noodle :rofl:

These people are motivating me to fill WalMart with literature in every nook and cranny of the store - and "forget my wallet" with a full cart in tote :rofl:
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:57 PM
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7. Now that other people are doing it
I guess I won't anymore. I've said before that I must shop there sometimes, due to my location in the boonies.

I have chronic pain, and have left my cart in the aisle many times out of sheer frustration, limping around forever, looking for one item.

I left a whole cart full at the self checkout last week when the machine malfunctioned, and there was no one around to fix it.

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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:12 PM
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8. Not that I'm a "carter"...but....
all one need do is leave their money, checks, and credit cards at home. Profess - quite truthfully - that one doesn't have anything with them, and leave. Apologize, adopt a sincere tone, and leave.

That being said, the easiest thing for me to do is to avoid the store. Which I do.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:20 PM
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9. The won't do anything about a first time.
But if the same person starts doing it repeatedly, then they will probably take action. I am sure their lawyers have already outlined a set of procedures for carter protestors.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:23 PM
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10. Doesn't accidental "carting" happens all the time?
What happened to my cart? I thought I left it by the kar-krap display.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:29 PM
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11. Several years ago a suburban Wal-Mart ...
... fired an employee for being gay. The local LGBT community anounced a similar "leave your cart" action against Wal-Mart and the store fired back that it would prosecute those that participated. This was before 9/11 and the Patriot Act, so I don't recall whether they cited a specific law they could prosecutor protesters under or if it was just intimidation from Wally World's legal thugs.

The only time I used a tactic like this was at a grocery store that was selling food well past the expiration date on the package. I had talked to the store manager about this and he assured me it would be taken care of, that it was apparently an oversight, that it's hard to get good shelf stockers, yada, yada, yada.

The next time I went in the store there were STILL out-of-date products (not just a few days, but a month out of date). I filled my shopping cart with everything I could grab, then picked up several of the expired products and took it to the manager's office and informed him that because the problem still hadn't been corrected, I would no longer be shopping there ... and by the way, here's some stuff you need to put back. He told me if I didn't put them back, I could be arrested and I replied, "Fine. Tell the cops to look for me out in front of the store. I'll be the one on the cell phone calling TV stations."

Needless to say, I wasn't arrested and as I left the store I heard a call over the intercom for stockers to report to the manager's office.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:30 PM
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12. Then they'll watch from above
High in the ceiling of wal mart, will be men with 40mm armour piercing
cannons mounted on special gimbal platforms. And as fast as a cart
can be left, the gun can vapourize the shoes of the perpetrator,
removing the odd toe, and leaving the person in customer-need position
for bandages, bottled water, painkillers and a new pair of shoes.

And the camera operator will watch the tapes over and over again,
masturbating pretending that he's fucking the person on the tape, just
because he's that kinda wanker. And forever, the punishment of leaving
a cart, is to be virtually fucked by undersexed walmart security
staff.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:15 PM
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17. "undersexed walmart security staff
you know this how? Are you married to one and refuse him of getting any? :) Sorry couldn't help it.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:00 PM
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25. Good point
Apologies for the polymic all highly sexed walmart staff!

Gosh, they should sell iraq to walmart.

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:22 PM
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19. Good... They'll See My Middle Finger
while I walk aimlessly in their aisles pointing out to all other customers how everything is made in China!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:26 PM
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20. The best way to protest Wal-MArt is to simply not shop there
and to deride friends, family and acquaintances that do shop there.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:40 PM
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23. If you consistently did it, they could eventually just prevent you from
entering the store. They do have the right to refuse service.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:20 PM
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26. Get into the checkout line. Try paying with expired credit card.
When they say it's expired, say "Oops! I don't have any other way to pay with me. Let me go home and get my checkbook. Hold my cart." Then leave.

Just try and prosecute that! :eyes:
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:57 PM
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27. Try doing it repeatedly and they might.
The whole cart thing depends on the same people doing it over and over.

A few people doing it once will not even show up on their radar.

I have no idea what legal avenues they have available, but they pay enough to lawyers that I am confident they could find something.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:20 PM
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28. Of course you are.
And if you pay by check or credit card they have you in their database monitoring your purchases, dates, times, all your 'behaviors.' They are big brother in practice. As you go there to buy your colored food pellets, they watch, they record.

Grow your own, by locally, pay cash, move farther from the grid, lessen your dependence on the consumer addiction machine.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:37 PM
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29. I doubt it's a crime. It's capitalist disobediance with the benefit
of not even being a violation of the law..
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