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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:06 PM
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An eternal life warning for ID backers
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"Intelligent Design" backers just might not enter Heaven unless they start mentioning "God".
Since ID is merely "Creationism" under a new banner and a sneakier way to push the Christian agenda well...

I do believe that not being straight forward with motives has cosequences, according to their Lord:

Matthew 10:32-33: Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Luke 12:8-9: Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.

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You're welcome!

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:10 PM
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1. Oh but they have
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 12:14 PM by Sandpiper
"Our strategy has been to change the subject a bit so that we can get the issue of Intelligent Design, which really means the reality of God, before the academic world and into the schools."

--Phillip Johnson, Ph.D.


"Intelligent Design opens the whole possibility of us being created in the image of a benevolent God."

"...any view of the sciences that leaves Christ out of the picture must be seen as fundamentally deficient."

--William Dembski, Ph.D.
Baylor University

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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:16 PM
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2. On a wider scale...
I have experienced an attempt, by ID backers, at denying that ID is Christian in nature which flagrantly denies their own God and commits them to an eternal life NOT in Heaven.
According to their own rules.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:21 PM
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4. Your average rank and file IDer may say this
But the words of the founders of their movement tell the real story.

ID was cooked up by people like Phillip Johnson, William Dembski, Michael Behe, et al.

And they've never made any secret that ID was about getting God and Jesus into science classes.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:16 PM
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3. IDers who don't mention the Lord are from the Dark Side
"THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I will not have anything from the Dark Side in my house, not gargoyles, not Tarot cards, not astrology!"

I just loved this week's Trading Spouses.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:44 PM
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5. We need more people like her on TV
So that ordinary people can see them and think to themselves:

"Wow, these people are freaks."
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:47 PM
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6. My thoughts exactly
Well, that and the savage amusement of it all.
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:41 PM
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8. Hey, lay off the "GOD WARRIOR!!!"
:rofl:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:40 PM
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7. With a world like this
God is NOT benevolent
The gods blinded us so we only see what is near.
And isn't a lack of foresight and a lack of foresight concerning the far distance empathy for far away people and other species what is killing us all..

I hate gods.Gods cause people to fight over gods,gods cause cults,gods do NOTHING good for humans ,because to a god all that matters is obey god and that is the leader speaking for god..without question.

God as creator is false authority.
I know Christians don't want to hear that.But that's how I feel about Gods.
Sekhmet I just like her myths I can relate to it,Underground panther I relate to his myths and I had him in a dream.Do I think these beings are real,I doubt it Sekhmet is a comfort mechanism my brain has latched onto emotionally to cope with this fucked up world. I do not think god the creator is benevolent at all.. because look at the agony that is in this creation,everything suffers and dies.Except viruses and one celled organisms.Everything is a war to survive.Existence is miserable and I hate it.
If god was so damn benevolent he would have made it impossible for sociopaths to dominate good hearted people,republicans to be elected,and everything created would not suffer sicken and die it would balance,he would have given human beings enough sense to not destroy their only home planet and cause the living beings on it to suffer for money or domination.He would give all people a conscience and empathy so they could live together without abusing each other.
As it stands some people are without conscience and those with one continue to pretend these abusers have a conscience and can be stopped by ways that stop a person with a conscience.And so we keep getting hurt and never do what would stop the shit.

God the creator IMHO is a monster to be hated.

What exists in the unknown well I can't say shit about the unknown,beyond here.but as for THIS world and it being the way it is if it was created by a god,that god is an evil monster.

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