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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:10 PM
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Poll question: Does the Democratic Party need to nominate a Southerner to win in '04
There is a thread which asserts that the Democratic party to win the presidency in 2004 should nominate a Southerner to head the ticket based on the fact that only Southern Democrats have won the presidency in the past 40 years (on the Dem ticket). Do you agree or disagree?

Does the Democratic party need to nominate a Southerner to win the presidency in 2004?



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metisnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:13 PM
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1. the south
cannot be ignored. I like a lot of the other candidates, but I am not so sure our friends to the south will elect them. If we want to win 04 we need a candidate from the south. I live in Chicago and this seems blatently obvious to me. For those of you that are shaking their heads at this point lets not forget that clinton was a dark horse candidate from the south.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:14 PM
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2. I'm from Pittsburgh, what region does that fall under?
I've been told Midwest. Please tell me so I can vote.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:15 PM
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4. I consider that the northeast
and most reference books do too, but I can see where the western part of the state may not think so.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:15 PM
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5. PA is the NE, OH is the beginning of the MW*
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:14 PM
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3. I'd rather have a southern VP
to go with a certain NE Presidential candidate - hint - he's not an Washington insider.
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metisnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:16 PM
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6. Think about it folks
i will vote for whoever comes out of the primary, but we need to win some states in the south if we are to have any chance.
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:24 PM
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7. The conventional wisdom in recent years is that you must be from the South
But it's not absolutely necessary. Most southern states won't support a southerner anyway (Gore didn't even win his own state of Tenn.). But if the Dem gets all the states Gore did (a tough road), then he/she will still need one more... maybe Tenn, MO, or FL. I hope.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:37 PM
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11. Southerners WILL support a Southern candidate...
just not one pushing for more gun control.
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reachout Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:29 PM
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8. Are these polls getting too complicated?
Are these polls getting too complicated?

Yes - I'm a Gay Midwestern Methodist Clark Supporter

No - I'm a Northern Latino Green-Leaning Dean Fan

Maybe - I'm a Southern Capricorn Woman IT Manager

Perhaps Not - I'm Dennis Kucinich
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:34 PM
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9. what is so complicated?
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 03:39 PM by CMT
a little demogrpahics on this question isn't a bad idea, imo.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:36 PM
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10. Nope...I'm from the south...and what our candidate needs to do....
is lay off pushing for federal gun control legislation. Make it a non-issue, negate the NRA's influence, and we've got a chance.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:38 PM
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12. Depends...
NASCAR dads are supposed to be the swing voters in next year's election, and they can be very discriminating:

A "blueblood from Taxachusetts" may not fare very well. A Vermonter might be accepted if he depicts himself as a rock-ribbed deer hunter or as Robert Frost. A New Yorker? Well, FDR was unique. Al Smith might be a better touchpoint.
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HPLeft Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:42 PM
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13. No
Kerry or Dean at the top of the ticket, Edwards or Clark at the bottom. Any combination of these factors flushes the Bush Administration down the toliet bowl of history.
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:49 PM
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14. The "Southern president" thing is a myth
Yes, it's been a trend for a few decades, but 10 elections is hardly enough of a sample to predict future trends. For an interesting take on how incomplete data can be used to reach weird conclusions, check out the Annals of Improbable Research's 2004 election prediction. Basically, either Dean or Clark will win it unless Bush orders the combat use of nuclear weapons.

http://members.bellatlantic.net/%7Evze3fs8i/air/pres2004b.html

Rather than trying to explain the elections of presidents as different as Carter, Johnson, Bush, and Clinton based on the fact that they are all from the south, maybe we should be looking at how an excessive focus on certain areas during election campaigns is a pervesion of representative democracy.
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:51 PM
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15. Edwards for VP
It doesn't have to be a southern prez, just nominate Edwards for VP under a non-southern Prez.


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